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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 540732" data-attributes="member: 1118">Guys, hong and a few others (that have recently posted)have been on these boards longer than Zulkir and DND Rule Machine.  This HAS been debated in the past and it was the concenus of the board that IF the archer could detect that a spell was being cast then he would get a readied action.  Most people decided to go with a Spot check.  That's why Hong is arguing this opinion.Since no one here has seen a stilled, silent spell being cast we have no idea what signs there might be that magic is being cast, and since there is no where in the rules that states that you CAN'T ready against a silent, stilled spell then it's really up to the DM.And off topic, I treat AoO like Hong.  By the rules if you're invisible and drink a potion you would suffer an AoO.  I always had trouble with that until I realized it isn't so much that the attacker is getting a free attack as it is the defender isn't defending against the attacker's swings.Actually, in all fairness to Zulkir and DND Rule Machine, a lot of the crux of the past debate was the fact that you would get an AoO against a silent, still spell then there must be a way of detecting it.  However, I believe that was based on the logic that an AoO was a free attack in response to an action as opposed to an attack that get's through because the defender lowered his defences.  With this new mindset, I would make the Spot check for the archer to be very high.IceBear</blockquote>

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