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<blockquote data-quote="pvandyck" data-source="post: 1791347" data-attributes="member: 6885"><p>OK, let me understand. Guy goes first, readies an action to 5ft step back (avoiding AOO) when the monster moves up and attacks. Monster goes, does a move action to move up, and is going to attack. Ready action triggers (before the attack), and the guy moves (withdraws) 5ft back.</p><p></p><p>Now, if I were controlling the monster, I wouldn't stand there going "damn", I'D DO MY SECOND MOVE ACTION AND MOVE UP TO THE GUY AGAIN. My reasoning being, the monster still has the rest of it's round. In my opinion, there's no decarative phase here, where the monster is obligated to attack the guy he intended. Before the monster attacked, the guy moved, therefore the attack didn't happen yet. The monster can attack something else in range, whatever.</p><p></p><p>Now, in my example, the guy (and anyone else in reach of this apparent 5' reach monster) would need to withdraw again to avoid my wrath. The guy still goes first (because the ready action inserts the guy in the initiative before the monster). He can't ready a withdraw action (because it's a full-round action), but he can arguably ready a 5-ft step when attacked. When the monster goes he steps back. Fine. When the guy is done moving back 5ft, the monster (which hasn't done any actions yet), does a 5ft step and full attacks the guy.</p><p></p><p>If the guy doen't want to do all this readying trickness, he can simply withdraw (double move) away from the monster. The guy's buddies that are in range of a move and attack from the monster are in danger, and I got the impression that they are trying ranged attacks, not all readying to move back if the monster melee attacks. If none of the buy's buddies are in range, the monster can charge (a full round action, yes - but the monster hasn't done anything yet), which is a double move, at the guy who withdrew. It's unlikely that the guy who withdrew is out of range.</p><p></p><p>I think the key is that simply because you readied to avoid an attack doesn't mean that the monster looses its action. It never got to attack, so it can attack something else, or continue moving. I WOULD make the monster use up an entire move getting there, even if it only moved 10 ft, but it's still got a move action left, in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>pvandyck</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pvandyck, post: 1791347, member: 6885"] OK, let me understand. Guy goes first, readies an action to 5ft step back (avoiding AOO) when the monster moves up and attacks. Monster goes, does a move action to move up, and is going to attack. Ready action triggers (before the attack), and the guy moves (withdraws) 5ft back. Now, if I were controlling the monster, I wouldn't stand there going "damn", I'D DO MY SECOND MOVE ACTION AND MOVE UP TO THE GUY AGAIN. My reasoning being, the monster still has the rest of it's round. In my opinion, there's no decarative phase here, where the monster is obligated to attack the guy he intended. Before the monster attacked, the guy moved, therefore the attack didn't happen yet. The monster can attack something else in range, whatever. Now, in my example, the guy (and anyone else in reach of this apparent 5' reach monster) would need to withdraw again to avoid my wrath. The guy still goes first (because the ready action inserts the guy in the initiative before the monster). He can't ready a withdraw action (because it's a full-round action), but he can arguably ready a 5-ft step when attacked. When the monster goes he steps back. Fine. When the guy is done moving back 5ft, the monster (which hasn't done any actions yet), does a 5ft step and full attacks the guy. If the guy doen't want to do all this readying trickness, he can simply withdraw (double move) away from the monster. The guy's buddies that are in range of a move and attack from the monster are in danger, and I got the impression that they are trying ranged attacks, not all readying to move back if the monster melee attacks. If none of the buy's buddies are in range, the monster can charge (a full round action, yes - but the monster hasn't done anything yet), which is a double move, at the guy who withdrew. It's unlikely that the guy who withdrew is out of range. I think the key is that simply because you readied to avoid an attack doesn't mean that the monster looses its action. It never got to attack, so it can attack something else, or continue moving. I WOULD make the monster use up an entire move getting there, even if it only moved 10 ft, but it's still got a move action left, in my opinion. pvandyck [/QUOTE]
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