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<blockquote data-quote="spunky_mutters" data-source="post: 1209918" data-attributes="member: 5426"><p>From the SRD:</p><p></p><p>An incorporeal creature can enter or pass through solid objects, but must remain adjacent to the object’s exterior, and so cannot pass entirely through an object whose space is larger than its own. It can sense the presence of creatures or objects within a square adjacent to its current location, but enemies have total concealment (50% miss chance) from an incorporeal creature that is inside an object. In order to see farther from the object it is in and attack normally, the incorporeal creature must emerge. An incorporeal creature inside an object has total cover, but when it attacks a creature outside the object it only has cover, so a creature outside with a readied action could strike at it as it attacks.</p><p></p><p>So the Spectre can detect the wizard despite being in the object, it gets a 50% miss chance to attack if it stays in, and it can be struck with a readied action. </p><p></p><p>Where's the problem. Since the wizard knows a spectre is attacking, and is readying an action to attack it, we can presume the wizard is doing nothing but looking for the spectre until it shows up. The wizard triggers when the spectre attacks for the first time. The sniping rules don't apply to melee attacks, and so are not applicable. </p><p></p><p>Wizard goes first, spectre has cover.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spunky_mutters, post: 1209918, member: 5426"] From the SRD: An incorporeal creature can enter or pass through solid objects, but must remain adjacent to the object’s exterior, and so cannot pass entirely through an object whose space is larger than its own. It can sense the presence of creatures or objects within a square adjacent to its current location, but enemies have total concealment (50% miss chance) from an incorporeal creature that is inside an object. In order to see farther from the object it is in and attack normally, the incorporeal creature must emerge. An incorporeal creature inside an object has total cover, but when it attacks a creature outside the object it only has cover, so a creature outside with a readied action could strike at it as it attacks. So the Spectre can detect the wizard despite being in the object, it gets a 50% miss chance to attack if it stays in, and it can be struck with a readied action. Where's the problem. Since the wizard knows a spectre is attacking, and is readying an action to attack it, we can presume the wizard is doing nothing but looking for the spectre until it shows up. The wizard triggers when the spectre attacks for the first time. The sniping rules don't apply to melee attacks, and so are not applicable. Wizard goes first, spectre has cover. [/QUOTE]
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