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<blockquote data-quote="Epic Meepo" data-source="post: 9479679" data-attributes="member: 57073">I don't know what you're talking about. There are no rules for DM's creating backgrounds in the PHB. The 2024 PHB says, &quot;your DM might offer additional backgrounds as options.&quot; That's literally all it says about DMs and backgrounds.If a recipe for chocolate chip cookies ends by saying, &quot;When plating your chocolate chip cookies, you might want to add some peanut butter cookies as additional options for the people you're feeding,&quot; that's not a recipe for peanut butter cookies.I agree. It's a player-facing rule for choosing from a list of pre-made backgrounds. A rule for choosing pre-made backgrounds isn't a rule for customizing or creating backgrounds.Yes, thank you. That's the exact text I quoted earlier to show there are no rules for custom backgrounds in the 2024 PHB.The 2014 PHB has an entire section called &quot;Customizing a Background,&quot; which says you (the player) can alter your background, and then provides guidelines for (you, the player) changing the game mechanics of your own background. You (Yaarel) seem to be taking all of that text from the 2014 PHB as a given when interpreting what you're reading in the 2024 PHB. But none of text about customizing backgrounds is in the 2024 PHB.The 2024 PHB has no section that says you (the player) can customize your background, and no section which provides any guidance for how to do that. The only thing it says is that you (the player) can change the narrative of your character's past as desired, which isn't what I'm talking about when I say &quot;custom background.&quot; I'm talking about the &quot;Customizing a Background&quot; section in the 2014 PHB. There are no rules equivalent to that anywhere in the 2024 PHB.If you don't believe me, try to answer this question using only the 2024 PHB: Is the restriction the 2014 PHB places on what tool proficiencies you can select when customizing a background still in place when creating a custom background using the 2024 rules? If you can cite text from the 2024 PHB which definitively answers that question, you can change my mind. Until then, I see no rules for custom backgrounds anywhere in the 2024 PHB, including the text you have cited in this thread.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Epic Meepo, post: 9479679, member: 57073"] I don't know what you're talking about. There are no rules for DM's creating backgrounds in the PHB. The 2024 PHB says, "your DM might offer additional backgrounds as options." That's literally all it says about DMs and backgrounds. If a recipe for chocolate chip cookies ends by saying, "When plating your chocolate chip cookies, you might want to add some peanut butter cookies as additional options for the people you're feeding," that's not a recipe for peanut butter cookies. I agree. It's a player-facing rule for choosing from a list of pre-made backgrounds. A rule for choosing pre-made backgrounds isn't a rule for customizing or creating backgrounds. Yes, thank you. That's the exact text I quoted earlier to show there are no rules for custom backgrounds in the 2024 PHB. The 2014 PHB has an entire section called "Customizing a Background," which says you (the player) can alter your background, and then provides guidelines for (you, the player) changing the game mechanics of your own background. You (Yaarel) seem to be taking all of that text from the 2014 PHB as a given when interpreting what you're reading in the 2024 PHB. But none of text about customizing backgrounds is in the 2024 PHB. The 2024 PHB has no section that says you (the player) can customize your background, and no section which provides any guidance for how to do that. The only thing it says is that you (the player) can change the narrative of your character's past as desired, which isn't what I'm talking about when I say "custom background." I'm talking about the "Customizing a Background" section in the 2014 PHB. There are no rules equivalent to that anywhere in the 2024 PHB. If you don't believe me, try to answer this question using only the 2024 PHB: Is the restriction the 2014 PHB places on what tool proficiencies you can select when customizing a background still in place when creating a custom background using the 2024 rules? If you can cite text from the 2024 PHB which definitively answers that question, you can change my mind. Until then, I see no rules for custom backgrounds anywhere in the 2024 PHB, including the text you have cited in this thread. [/QUOTE]

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