Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Real city sizes are so different in DND! Waterdeep, Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter compared.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8754357" data-attributes="member: 6987520"><p>FWIW, if anyone is interested, this is the size comparison for the ancient cities, all at the same scale:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]259700[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Populations (estimated) near their "peaks":</p><p></p><p><strong>Athens</strong>: 350-500,000 (includes women, children, and slaves--who could number as much as 80% of the population!)</p><p><strong>Constantinople</strong>: 200-800,000 (in varies widely over the centuries, often about 400-500,000)</p><p><strong>London</strong>: 50-80,000 (depending on era)</p><p><strong>Paris</strong>: 200-300,000 during the middle ages</p><p><strong>Rome</strong>: 1,000,000 (reported as high as 4-5 million, but reports contradict on just who was counted: men only, citizens only, females and children, even slaves...?)</p><p><strong>York</strong>: 10-15,000</p><p></p><p>Obviously, this isn't exact, but it can give you an idea of how crowded much of these cities were. Rome, for example, would starve without the wheat crops brought in, and Paris has a history of famine due to loss of crops. I think it is important to note this largest cities in ancient to medieval times could not survive without the influx of trade and food (much like our large modern cities, of course!).</p><p></p><p>Fire (due to how close buildings were), disease (due to lack of general health care in many cases, population crowding, and exposure), and famine (crop failures, etc.) were the primary fears, along with invasion by rival cities (both in the region and from abroad).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8754357, member: 6987520"] FWIW, if anyone is interested, this is the size comparison for the ancient cities, all at the same scale: [ATTACH type="full"]259700[/ATTACH] Populations (estimated) near their "peaks": [B]Athens[/B]: 350-500,000 (includes women, children, and slaves--who could number as much as 80% of the population!) [B]Constantinople[/B]: 200-800,000 (in varies widely over the centuries, often about 400-500,000) [B]London[/B]: 50-80,000 (depending on era) [B]Paris[/B]: 200-300,000 during the middle ages [B]Rome[/B]: 1,000,000 (reported as high as 4-5 million, but reports contradict on just who was counted: men only, citizens only, females and children, even slaves...?) [B]York[/B]: 10-15,000 Obviously, this isn't exact, but it can give you an idea of how crowded much of these cities were. Rome, for example, would starve without the wheat crops brought in, and Paris has a history of famine due to loss of crops. I think it is important to note this largest cities in ancient to medieval times could not survive without the influx of trade and food (much like our large modern cities, of course!). Fire (due to how close buildings were), disease (due to lack of general health care in many cases, population crowding, and exposure), and famine (crop failures, etc.) were the primary fears, along with invasion by rival cities (both in the region and from abroad). [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Real city sizes are so different in DND! Waterdeep, Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter compared.
Top