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<blockquote data-quote="Galethorn" data-source="post: 1489542" data-attributes="member: 7888">Bad, in that they have to be more careful. If you're playing a by-the-book campaign with lots of random encounters, and maybe more than the usual ammount of combat, then I think that the VP/WP system would most certainly suck, but it would probably be a good thing in a more...uhhh...down-to-earth kind of a campaign. Like one where a sleeping fighter doesn't survive being stabbed in the head with a dagger repeatedly, simply because he's killed enough kobolds in his day to make it to level 5. Or one where real tactics work, like sneaking up from behind somebody and slitting their throat without you yourself having rogue levels.But, to be fair, those things still wouldn't happen with the VP/WP as written, but rather with one a little more like Star Wars, and with a much more lenient take on what counts as a Coup De Grace...and a lower massive damage threshold...and more dangerously scaling save DCs based on the damage done.So, for a high-level-fighter-falling-out-of-a-flying-castle-only-to-get-up-and-perform-a-lewd-gesture-followed-by-a-jig (HLFFOOAFCOTGUAPALGFBAG) Campaign where high-level human-sized and smaller characters kill dragons with ease, the VP/WP system would be a very bad thing...because it would no longer allow things like that to happen... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Galethorn, post: 1489542, member: 7888"] Bad, in that they have to be more careful. If you're playing a by-the-book campaign with lots of random encounters, and maybe more than the usual ammount of combat, then I think that the VP/WP system would most certainly [i]suck[/i], but it would probably be a good thing in a more...uhhh...down-to-earth kind of a campaign. Like one where a sleeping fighter [i]doesn't[/i] survive being stabbed in the head with a dagger repeatedly, simply because he's killed enough kobolds in his day to make it to level 5. Or one where [b]real[/b] tactics work, like sneaking up from behind somebody and slitting their throat without you yourself having rogue levels. But, to be fair, those things still wouldn't happen with the VP/WP as written, but rather with one a little more like Star Wars, and with a much more lenient take on what counts as a Coup De Grace...and a lower massive damage threshold...and more dangerously scaling save DCs based on the damage done. So, for a high-level-fighter-falling-out-of-a-flying-castle-only-to-get-up-and-perform-a-lewd-gesture-followed-by-a-jig (HLFFOOAFCOTGUAPALGFBAG) Campaign where high-level human-sized and smaller characters kill dragons with ease, the VP/WP system would be a very bad thing...because it would no longer allow things like that to happen... :) [/QUOTE]

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