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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 3615703" data-attributes="member: 18363">The second was easy to see past. The steps going down lacked any appearance of grain or glint, and there over all appearance was more akin to what I would expect in a high-end computer game rather than an actual stone passage. So, too, for that matter, were the walls of the corner next to the 'stairway'. In fact, I am not entirely certain that the entire thing isn't a flat picture. Sure, there is a reflection on the stone floor just next to the 'opening', but after seeing the first pic I'm not too sure I'd be willing to accept that appearance as an actual clue. The stone slab was well done, however. I could almost accept *that* as real. The 'statue' was a true work of art. Only because I knew I was looking at an illusion was I not immediately fooled, and even then it took about ten to fifteen seconds of searching before I found the evidence of the illusion. Look where the 'base' upon which the 'statue' stands meets the floor. It is obviously flat along the crease where floor meets wall / 'base'. That is the only visual clue, and due to the similarity in color (black), low lighting there, and the fact that it is on the very edge of one's vision as one looks at the 'statue' it is very difficult to spot this essential clue. So, to summerize: I made the first save easily - by perhaps 4-5 pts, but I barely made the second save by one 1 pt.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> Of course, if the corner and side passage next to the stairway are real then I saved against the stair only to attempt a disbelief against the (real) corner and passage.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> Not sure how that would work out rules wise, if the character believes a non-illusion is an illusion and distrusts their 'save' against that which they still suspect to be an illusion. Should the GM pretend it is - for that character, at least? Maybe I succeeded against the stairway, attempted to disbelieve the corner and passage, and rolled so low that I distrust the GM's statement that the save actually succeeded?  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> Very very nice. Thanks for the pics. Do you have any more from that museum?</blockquote>

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