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<blockquote data-quote="genshou" data-source="post: 2624969" data-attributes="member: 13164"><p>In this sense you refer to 'Education' as meaning less along the lines of Knowledge and Int bonus to said skill, and more along the lines of all the character's skill ranks in all skills, right? Despite what many say I believe Intelligence and Education do go hand in hand but are not identical, nor is either an aspect of the other. At the risk of slight derailment: Physical training will only take you so far and in the end it is your brain's ability to retain information learned, whether of the scholarly type or the "I now know how to control my muscles better when competing in a triathlon" type, so Intelligence is always a key factor in skill points. At least that's my take; YMMV.</p><p></p><p>However, the <em>separation</em> of Intelligence and Education is that Education is reflected by a character class's skill points per level and boosted by Intelligence. A Commoner gets as many skill points as a Wizard, which is one flaw in this belief, but that's more due to an inconsistency in the D&D system. Look at d20 Modern. A Smart hero is the most well-Educated character regardless of what their Intelligence score actually is. Granted, a Smart hero with a 10 Intelligence won't go very far due to not being able to use their talents, but a well-Educated person with an average IQ would be best represented by a Smart Ordinary with a 10 Intelligence. They still get 9 skill points per level, and that's what represents Education: sticking it out and learning whether you are average or exceptional in Intelligence. Heck, saying my high school grades were less than stellar is an understatement. I didn't learn things in school, but if I got into the details here I'd derail this thread into political territory. I knew plenty of light bulbs who weren't particularly bright or dim but did well in school because they focused on learning, and that's what Education is. It is in no way an aspect of Intelligence. Intelligence merely boosts one's ability to attain Education. For example, I am as well educated or more so than all those average-IQ perfectionists who always wanted straight A grades in every class. That is because my focus on learning coupled with a phenomenal capacity for memory retention has allowed me to attain a great amount of Education, ie skill points.</p><p></p><p>Brevity is not my strong point <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="genshou, post: 2624969, member: 13164"] In this sense you refer to 'Education' as meaning less along the lines of Knowledge and Int bonus to said skill, and more along the lines of all the character's skill ranks in all skills, right? Despite what many say I believe Intelligence and Education do go hand in hand but are not identical, nor is either an aspect of the other. At the risk of slight derailment: Physical training will only take you so far and in the end it is your brain's ability to retain information learned, whether of the scholarly type or the "I now know how to control my muscles better when competing in a triathlon" type, so Intelligence is always a key factor in skill points. At least that's my take; YMMV. However, the [I]separation[/I] of Intelligence and Education is that Education is reflected by a character class's skill points per level and boosted by Intelligence. A Commoner gets as many skill points as a Wizard, which is one flaw in this belief, but that's more due to an inconsistency in the D&D system. Look at d20 Modern. A Smart hero is the most well-Educated character regardless of what their Intelligence score actually is. Granted, a Smart hero with a 10 Intelligence won't go very far due to not being able to use their talents, but a well-Educated person with an average IQ would be best represented by a Smart Ordinary with a 10 Intelligence. They still get 9 skill points per level, and that's what represents Education: sticking it out and learning whether you are average or exceptional in Intelligence. Heck, saying my high school grades were less than stellar is an understatement. I didn't learn things in school, but if I got into the details here I'd derail this thread into political territory. I knew plenty of light bulbs who weren't particularly bright or dim but did well in school because they focused on learning, and that's what Education is. It is in no way an aspect of Intelligence. Intelligence merely boosts one's ability to attain Education. For example, I am as well educated or more so than all those average-IQ perfectionists who always wanted straight A grades in every class. That is because my focus on learning coupled with a phenomenal capacity for memory retention has allowed me to attain a great amount of Education, ie skill points. Brevity is not my strong point :o [/QUOTE]
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