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<blockquote data-quote="Roman" data-source="post: 1608187" data-attributes="member: 1845"><p>An excellent and highly interesting set of responses! Thanks ladies and gentlemen! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Some of you (specifically Thanee) even gave info on possible application to D&D. I did not actually have an application in mind when creating the thread - I was merely interested in how you would separate out basic characteristics if you were to numerically simulate a human being as realistically as possible in an unspecified RPG. Nonetheless, the applications to D&D were interesting reading even so - after all I am a D&D gamer. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, I would like to ask two related questions: </p><p></p><p></p><p>1) What do you think are the parameters of variation (perhaps the 'mean', type of distribution [binomial, normal, other] and 'standard deviation' - or whatever other parameters of variation you can think of) of these ability scores in the real general population? (Yeah, I know for some ability scores this is basically impossible to determine, but for some it is possible.) </p><p></p><p>Here is an example to illustrate what I am looking for:</p><p></p><p>Say we look at Strength/Power (or whatever you want to call it). Strength is measured reasonably well by how much a person can lift. So... is the weight lifted represented well by say a normal distribution? What is the mean weight lifted? What is the standard deviation? I am sure someone must have done studies on something like this (not for RPGs, but for legitimate scientific reasons). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>2) What are the correlations between these 'ability scores' IRL? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>NOTE: IRL people obviosly do not actually have 'ability scores' - when using the term we are obviously only speaking of a model. I know that this is obvious - I am just covering my bases in case someone wants to accuse me of 'reducing people to numbers and statistics'. That should not be a problem with people on this board, but better to be safe than sorry. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Roman, post: 1608187, member: 1845"] An excellent and highly interesting set of responses! Thanks ladies and gentlemen! :) Some of you (specifically Thanee) even gave info on possible application to D&D. I did not actually have an application in mind when creating the thread - I was merely interested in how you would separate out basic characteristics if you were to numerically simulate a human being as realistically as possible in an unspecified RPG. Nonetheless, the applications to D&D were interesting reading even so - after all I am a D&D gamer. ;) Now, I would like to ask two related questions: 1) What do you think are the parameters of variation (perhaps the 'mean', type of distribution [binomial, normal, other] and 'standard deviation' - or whatever other parameters of variation you can think of) of these ability scores in the real general population? (Yeah, I know for some ability scores this is basically impossible to determine, but for some it is possible.) Here is an example to illustrate what I am looking for: Say we look at Strength/Power (or whatever you want to call it). Strength is measured reasonably well by how much a person can lift. So... is the weight lifted represented well by say a normal distribution? What is the mean weight lifted? What is the standard deviation? I am sure someone must have done studies on something like this (not for RPGs, but for legitimate scientific reasons). :) 2) What are the correlations between these 'ability scores' IRL? NOTE: IRL people obviosly do not actually have 'ability scores' - when using the term we are obviously only speaking of a model. I know that this is obvious - I am just covering my bases in case someone wants to accuse me of 'reducing people to numbers and statistics'. That should not be a problem with people on this board, but better to be safe than sorry. ;) [/QUOTE]
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