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<blockquote data-quote="mmadsen" data-source="post: 3317129" data-attributes="member: 1645">I agree that trained fighters are used to more punishment than novice fighters, and they have the determination to fight on, but the kind of injuries you're looking at are from fists and rattan weapons (versus armor), not live blades and iron maces.&nbsp; A trained fighter ignores bruises because he can -- bruises don't physically impair him much -- but &quot;heart&quot; doesn't help you fight through a decapitation.Very true.&nbsp; Most wounds don't immediately incapacitate a determined foe.&nbsp; Some wounds incapacitate anyone though -- and scoring a shot to the brain or spine is not an ablative process of wearing someone down.There the hit points only work because the fighters are wearing full suits of heavy armor and not using armor-piercing weapons.&nbsp; In that case, they really are fighting to exhaustion, and all the little bumps and bruises add to their fatigue.Hit points would do a terrible job of modeling a fight from, say, The Three Musketeers, which is equally heroic, because there combatants rarely take more than a scratch before getting run through.&nbsp; Similarly, hit points wouldn't work well for a western or a samurai movie, where one shot or one slash is supposed to kill even a competent foe.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mmadsen, post: 3317129, member: 1645"] I agree that trained fighters are used to more punishment than novice fighters, and they have the determination to fight on, but the kind of injuries you're looking at are from fists and rattan weapons (versus armor), not live blades and iron maces. A trained fighter ignores bruises because he can -- bruises don't physically impair him much -- but "heart" doesn't help you fight through a decapitation. Very true. Most wounds don't immediately incapacitate a determined foe. Some wounds incapacitate anyone though -- and scoring a shot to the brain or spine is not an ablative process of wearing someone down. There the hit points only work because the fighters are wearing full suits of heavy armor and not using armor-piercing weapons. In that case, they really are fighting to exhaustion, and all the little bumps and bruises add to their fatigue. Hit points would do a terrible job of modeling a fight from, say, [i]The Three Musketeers[/i], which is equally heroic, because there combatants rarely take more than a scratch before getting run through. Similarly, hit points wouldn't work well for a western or a samurai movie, where one shot or one slash is supposed to kill even a competent foe. [/QUOTE]

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