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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DeeEight" data-source="post: 3326556" data-attributes="member: 49601">Actually they also tested that one in a test stand.... they had a coin braced in a rig, and then tried different guns on it. None of the cowbow guns and ammo did more than dent the coins dead center (the ones done from dropping from the hand weren't dead center). Only by switching to modern guns like a .357Mag did they penetrate.Also when they tested stuff like shooting out the lock of a door (something I'm sure PCs in every game with guns will try and do at some stage) they claimed using handguns was busted because with single shots, they didn't open the locks, and with heavier/longer guns, they often removed the whole lock assembly from the door. Yet if you look at those handgun hits, you'd think to yourself "that lock isn't gonna stand up to a good tug from my ogre now" or just "shoot it to the left next time".As to the us army thing, I'm paraphrasing from a magazine article on it. Its in #42 of Special Weapons for Military and Police and what the author wrote on the subject of a couple contenders for the new contract.</blockquote>