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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3328019" data-attributes="member: 4937">Your right.  I apologize.  However you have said a few things which implied to me that you'd not explored the game.  I probably shouldn't take them in that way, but that's how they sound to me.For example, when you made your example about the rogue vs. the thug, you seemed to be implying that there was no way under the rules for the rogue to make a lethal attack.  It seemed pretty obvious to me that in fact you could.  I still maintain, whatever your level of experience, that picking a rogue as your example and then complaining when I performed a manuever that took advantage of his sneak attack ability was setting up the character to fail solely for the sake of the false example it would provide.  You can't ignore the feats.  They are a significant part of combat.  If they weren't, a 20th level warrior would be nearly as good as a 20th level fighter.I was responding to your suggestion that 'skill should count most' coupled with your claim that Power Attack represents 'wild attacks'.  Thats suggested to me that you weren't familiar with how power attack is often used.  Power attack is extremely useful for any sort of finesse 'skillful' combatant that uses a light weapon, because it lets them dump any excess to hit bonuses into thier damage.  Rogues are usually a finesse combatant, although, admittedly not as much as a 'swashbuckler' type, they still can get alot of power attack.  Granted a combat focused rogue will probably be powering up sneak attack, still there is alot of utility in power attack if you qualify for it, which your sample rogue with +1 STR bonus did, if only because a purely sneak attack focused rogue isn't much good against anything that doesn't take criticals.That'll work too.  Rapid shot is busted.</blockquote>

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