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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8007087" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>So to be clear: you're saying that D&D 5e <em>can't </em>produce fiction that resembles the works the game is ostensibly inspired by, and that's a good thing?</p><p></p><p>Another example would be Conan's befriending of Belit in REH's story Queen of the Black Coast.</p><p></p><p>I don't know the Fafhrd and Grey Mouser stories, but would be surprised if they don't have emergent social situations in which more is at work than the contrast of <em>insult </em>and <em>helpful</em>.</p><p></p><p>And yet Conan and Belit become not only friends but lovers.</p><p></p><p>Or if one doesn't want the pulp tropes, I'll go back to LotR: between them Gimli and Legolas insult and threaten Eomer, and yet he lends them horses and they all go on to be friends and comrades-in-arms.</p><p></p><p>If 5e D&D can't produce fiction that resembles LotR, and can't produce fiction that resembles REH's Conan, what sort of fiction <em>can </em>it produce? What's an example of adventure fiction in which social interaction is all about "the face" doing his/her thing to press the right button to get the antagonist to do the desired thing, while no one else participates or ever has anything at stake? A certain sort of con/heist story? Anything else?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8007087, member: 42582"] So to be clear: you're saying that D&D 5e [I]can't [/I]produce fiction that resembles the works the game is ostensibly inspired by, and that's a good thing? Another example would be Conan's befriending of Belit in REH's story Queen of the Black Coast. I don't know the Fafhrd and Grey Mouser stories, but would be surprised if they don't have emergent social situations in which more is at work than the contrast of [I]insult [/I]and [I]helpful[/I]. And yet Conan and Belit become not only friends but lovers. Or if one doesn't want the pulp tropes, I'll go back to LotR: between them Gimli and Legolas insult and threaten Eomer, and yet he lends them horses and they all go on to be friends and comrades-in-arms. If 5e D&D can't produce fiction that resembles LotR, and can't produce fiction that resembles REH's Conan, what sort of fiction [I]can [/I]it produce? What's an example of adventure fiction in which social interaction is all about "the face" doing his/her thing to press the right button to get the antagonist to do the desired thing, while no one else participates or ever has anything at stake? A certain sort of con/heist story? Anything else? [/QUOTE]
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