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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8010347" data-attributes="member: 23751">See, if that was the in game situation, my response would be something like, &quot;The guards watching the walls are spaced in such a way that you'll never be able to simply climb hidden....so if you want to go that route, you'll have to figure a way around that.&quot;&nbsp; I also gauge things against PC level.&nbsp; At level 1, I'd probably leave it at that.&nbsp; At 5th level I'd probably ask for an intelligence check and if successful, I'd mention that they they know that guards tend to get bored after a few hours and would be more easily distracted then.&nbsp; At 10th level I'd just offer that up without a roll.&nbsp; If they then do nothing but try to climb up hidden, they'll be seen.&nbsp; If they try invisibility, distraction or whatever else, it could work.My experience, knowledge of the issue at hand and knowledge of the NPCs, and variables both known and unknown to the PCs/players.&nbsp; If I know it won't work, it won't.&nbsp; If I feel that it would work automatically, it will.&nbsp; If I'm not entirely certain one way or the other, I'll come up with a DC and ask for a roll.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8010347, member: 23751"] See, if that was the in game situation, my response would be something like, "The guards watching the walls are spaced in such a way that you'll never be able to simply climb hidden....so if you want to go that route, you'll have to figure a way around that." I also gauge things against PC level. At level 1, I'd probably leave it at that. At 5th level I'd probably ask for an intelligence check and if successful, I'd mention that they they know that guards tend to get bored after a few hours and would be more easily distracted then. At 10th level I'd just offer that up without a roll. If they then do nothing but try to climb up hidden, they'll be seen. If they try invisibility, distraction or whatever else, it could work. My experience, knowledge of the issue at hand and knowledge of the NPCs, and variables both known and unknown to the PCs/players. If I know it won't work, it won't. If I feel that it would work automatically, it will. If I'm not entirely certain one way or the other, I'll come up with a DC and ask for a roll. [/QUOTE]

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