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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8011505" data-attributes="member: 6795602">I've made that same argument for 2-3 posts now.  I think one would be justified in thinking that because you hadn't rejected my argument on those grounds earlier that you implicitly agreed with those premises.  That's definitely how your posts read to me and how I took that.  I mean afterall, we could have saved countless back and forth posts if you had just led with this.That said, it's been days and pages later.  I don't believe you are summarizing your point fairly or correctly.  But it's been days and pages later now and I don't think either of us want to go digging back through the thread to prove that one way or another.If all you have meant to say is that player actions will auto fail if not genre appropriate then I agree.  I agree with this part of what you said fully.  It's just I don't see how that actually ties back into a meaningful way into the discussion we were having about PC actions.I don't believe he can - at least not by any rule other than fiat.  And that is what happens.Yep and that's where following from established fiction comes in - which I think is a very good heuristic.  I don't believe you can shorten it to following from fiction though as pretty much everything is possible in fiction - as you just illustrated it's fictionally possible in genre appropriate terms for a fighter to jump and end up on the moon.  That's why established fiction is soo important there.</blockquote>

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