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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 8012226" data-attributes="member: 6785785"><p>I don't think they are synonyms. But I think on is an example of the other. </p><p></p><p>Characters making mistakes would likely be when they rolled a 1-3 in the example.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, that's not what I'm saying. Every game requires GM judgment in some way. There's a reason the role exists in most games.....it's kind of required. But how they exercise their judgment, and what limits are placed on them, and what the players can or can't do about it......those are all important to the big picture. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure they are.....they're just reasonable ways of limiting the player agency. Saying "I pull out my ray gun" in a game of D&D is usually gonna get shot down, and rightfully so (except if you're playing some kind of Barrier Peaks flavored game). It is a limit on player agency to not allow that....but it's a limit that everyone is okay with. </p><p></p><p>I think the issue is the rather large gray area when it comes to many other elements of D&D play that are left up to the DM. For example, taking one insult cast by one PC toward an NPC and deciding that the NPC must not only react negatively, but that any and all progress or good will established by other PCs prior to this point is null and void.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 8012226, member: 6785785"] I don't think they are synonyms. But I think on is an example of the other. Characters making mistakes would likely be when they rolled a 1-3 in the example. No, that's not what I'm saying. Every game requires GM judgment in some way. There's a reason the role exists in most games.....it's kind of required. But how they exercise their judgment, and what limits are placed on them, and what the players can or can't do about it......those are all important to the big picture. Sure they are.....they're just reasonable ways of limiting the player agency. Saying "I pull out my ray gun" in a game of D&D is usually gonna get shot down, and rightfully so (except if you're playing some kind of Barrier Peaks flavored game). It is a limit on player agency to not allow that....but it's a limit that everyone is okay with. I think the issue is the rather large gray area when it comes to many other elements of D&D play that are left up to the DM. For example, taking one insult cast by one PC toward an NPC and deciding that the NPC must not only react negatively, but that any and all progress or good will established by other PCs prior to this point is null and void. [/QUOTE]
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