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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8016102" data-attributes="member: 16814">I believe I have been clear that I do not recognize characters having agency.  There's nothing here to have.In the examples given, the player, as I also said, clearly.  That's not necessarily the case, because the character is a piece of the fiction, usually, but not exclusively or always, under the player's control.  Just sticking to 5e, if a character is dominated via magic then the player's agency is either severely restricted to those actions that support the domination effect or the character comes under control of the GM and the player loses agency.  Who has agency to determine character actions is, therefore, only answerable in a specific context of knowing what the game-state is.As [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] clearly defined what he was talking about, and it wasn't this, I don't see how it's important at all.  It appears the first mention was by [USER=463]@S'mon[/USER] in post 1121 (ctrl-f is useful).  He didn't really define the term, so I can't tell what he meant by it. After that, it's limited to this discussion outside of one use by [USER=7016699]@prabe[/USER].   I can't say how you've interpreted it, but [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] and I have been very clear that character agency is not shorthand for player agency over the character, in pretty much every post.  Maybe it stuck with you, but it doesn't seem to have done so for anyone else discussing this and if you've been using it that way, it's not apparent at all.</blockquote>

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