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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8016940" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>If a DM would share the details when in a situation where there is a roll, then he's also going to share the details when there isn't a roll. He's not suddenly going to stop the way he's DMing to hold back details.</p><p></p><p>And it's all math. The range of possible outcomes is 0% to 100%. All that remains is to calculate the odds. It doesn't cease to be math when the odds of success hit 0% or 100%.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe I missed it, but where was it said that 1) the PCs are more powerful than he and his guards are, and/or 2) that he knows they are more powerful? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why would he have to be an obstacle to overcome? Maybe he's just something to navigate through. Overcome implies conflict that may or may not be there. </p><p></p><p>If I were a player hearing about such a dragon, I'd ask more questions. Such as, "Have other heroes armed with magic made the attempt?" and so on. The description is unusual and warrants more research. In 5e, such high armor classes don't exist and any dragon can be hurt on a roll of 20, so even a bunch of peasants with bows can hurt one, so this is clearly something odd.</p><p></p><p>Is the Baron's dislike of disobedience a challenge to the PCs to overcome? Or simply an indication that they must try another means? Which is it? How will players know? Because when townsfolk get out of line, he throws them in the stocks?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Probably not. The Baron would have heard about what Strahd does to people and would know not to insult him.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure. Mistakes happen. Regardless of system or agency. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You seem to have ignored everything that came after that. When you factor in the rest of what I said, "...<strong>so long as the DM is describing things the way he should be.</strong>" It will still equal a very good chance. What you are describing is the sentence after that bolded sentence, "If the DM is giving poor descriptions then there will be issues, but those issues will affect new and old players." </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's the same thing with regard to scope. Earth is almost always around you and it has meaning. Player agency is almost always present, and it has meaning. Being broad doesn't take away its meaning.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope. Nor do they allow it. The DM has to change the game for something like this to happen, and the players would or at least should be aware of such changes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There would have to be a house rule present. A broken foot is beyond the scope of simple narration of a failed attempt to kick down the door.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8016940, member: 23751"] If a DM would share the details when in a situation where there is a roll, then he's also going to share the details when there isn't a roll. He's not suddenly going to stop the way he's DMing to hold back details. And it's all math. The range of possible outcomes is 0% to 100%. All that remains is to calculate the odds. It doesn't cease to be math when the odds of success hit 0% or 100%. Maybe I missed it, but where was it said that 1) the PCs are more powerful than he and his guards are, and/or 2) that he knows they are more powerful? Why would he have to be an obstacle to overcome? Maybe he's just something to navigate through. Overcome implies conflict that may or may not be there. If I were a player hearing about such a dragon, I'd ask more questions. Such as, "Have other heroes armed with magic made the attempt?" and so on. The description is unusual and warrants more research. In 5e, such high armor classes don't exist and any dragon can be hurt on a roll of 20, so even a bunch of peasants with bows can hurt one, so this is clearly something odd. Is the Baron's dislike of disobedience a challenge to the PCs to overcome? Or simply an indication that they must try another means? Which is it? How will players know? Because when townsfolk get out of line, he throws them in the stocks? Probably not. The Baron would have heard about what Strahd does to people and would know not to insult him. Sure. Mistakes happen. Regardless of system or agency. You seem to have ignored everything that came after that. When you factor in the rest of what I said, "...[B]so long as the DM is describing things the way he should be.[/B]" It will still equal a very good chance. What you are describing is the sentence after that bolded sentence, "If the DM is giving poor descriptions then there will be issues, but those issues will affect new and old players." It's the same thing with regard to scope. Earth is almost always around you and it has meaning. Player agency is almost always present, and it has meaning. Being broad doesn't take away its meaning. Nope. Nor do they allow it. The DM has to change the game for something like this to happen, and the players would or at least should be aware of such changes. There would have to be a house rule present. A broken foot is beyond the scope of simple narration of a failed attempt to kick down the door. [/QUOTE]
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