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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 8018056" data-attributes="member: 6785785">I mean.....AC is a thing in the game. Anger class isn't. This is my point. mechanics exist for the combat in order to make things clearly understood. Otherwise, it would be like playing war with your friends in the backyard as kids. "I shot you!"- "NO! I shot you first!!"No mechanics seem to have been deployed to resolve the insult. This is my point. The DM has decided by fiat that this is impossible, and so no roll is needed. How does a player assess this kind of situation? The reasoning is hidden, and whether or not mechanics will even be used is unclear.I disagree. Again, this is my point about the Baron's temperament....the PCs have been given unclear information consisting of narrative details that we cannot understand if or how they translate into game mechanics. So when the DM says "The Baron is mad, and believes that his festivals of the sun keep his village safe, and he punishes the townsfolk who challenge him." Is this a cue for something the PCs are meant to overcome, such as a high AC? Or is this a cue that the Baron cannot be reasoned with at all? Is it a cue that great care needs to be taken in interacting with him?You'll insist that it's the last. My point is that there's no way for the players to know that.Yes, this is a big part of the problem.Sure, why not? Do you think the PCs look like villagers?It's not just the description....I believe that a gap could develop in that way for many games, if not all. It's that the players are so reliant on the DM or all iin game info. They have very little way to introduce anything of their own. Combined with potentially unclear mechanics.....mechanics that may not even be used....that's a potentially bad combo. It can be dealt with and avoided.....but it's something to be aware of.Who says you're suspended over air? My character realized he couldn't make it, and skidded to a halt at the ledge. The DM absolutely narrates consequences.A penalty to speed of -10 feet and disadvantage on athletics checks until some kind of magical healing is applied, or until 5 long rests? I mean, that seems fairly reasonable, no? I'd personally prefer that a DM use his judgment in this way rather than to simply shut down certain actions with auto-fail.</blockquote>

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