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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 8018619" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Don't have time to read and comment on the other parts of the post, but I wanted to clarify this right quick before I leave.Misunderstanding.I used immersion/habitation/verisimilitude rather than roleplaying because they are discrete things from one another.  The prior 3 are states of mind/being/emotion while the latter is a discipline.  One can be playing a roleplaying game and one can roleplay with those prior 3 states reduced or missing entirely (like someone operationalizing a formula).Further, many on this site and in this conversation (I'm pretty sure you amongst them) have championed those states of mind/being/emotion as a virtue or even a play priority (perhaps THE apex play priority) of your gaming.So my take on the machinery here is as follows:* Being compelled to act outside of one's conception of self (or even one's own self-interest) by exogenous, mundane forces is fundamental to being a highly evolved social animal like a human.  * Being mundanely compelled by an exogenous force is not volitional.* If TTRPGs want this experience to emulate the emotional/mental state (both in the moment and upon review) of this social transaction, thereby engendering habitation, then the resolution machinery needs to also be non-volitional.* Having a choice (to decide to pantomime a state or refuse to pantomime) is volitional.* Therefore non-volitional resolution and imposition of state is cognitively much closer to what happens in real life and therefore has as good a chance as there can be to engender habitation while resolution that comes with volition and the choice to pantomime (or not) can't possibly engender habitation.[HR][/HR]Hopefully that is more clear.  TLDR:Habitation is not roleplaying (and vice versa).</blockquote>

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