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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dan Stack" data-source="post: 807020" data-attributes="member: 3143">Thomas -Thanks for the link - I'll have to give it some thought, but it sounds about what I'm looking for.  I can definitely see characters diving for cover when a firearm is drawn. What I'm mulling over is what I like about the Chaosium and d20 systems to decide which to use for a Delta Green style game.  Though some people have advocated a straight d20 Modern system for a Delta Green game, that seems a little too high-action for me.  In Delta Green, characters are very mortal, they just tend to work for government agencies.What I like about Chaosium is the fairly strightforward rules engine and characters having low hit points.   However, sometimes it seems to be a little too loose - for example how to adjudicate various modifiers to difficulty and be consistent about it.While I like d20 Modern, I think the heroic classes are a little too feat-heavy for such a game.  Hence my leaning towards Ordinary characters.  Though I like the massive damage threshold rule, I do worry the impact of high level characters in such a setting.The Grim-n-Gritty system does sound about right - it gives characters a decent number of starting hit points but they get better a lot slower under those rules.  That I like.  A character's defense bonus definitely factors into the ability to dodge, but typically not as much as a baddies improved abilities to hit.  I suspect that would make characters seek cover and various other defensive options, something I like.  Any details from your own experience with these rules?One random thought that occurs to me is it might wind up being worthwhile to reconsider making the characters Ordinaries if I change the hit point system to the one you pointed out.  It seems that the characters will be made rather mortal by such a system and might need the extra feat edge.  Something I'll have to think about...</blockquote>

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