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<blockquote data-quote="Warpiglet" data-source="post: 7867809" data-attributes="member: 6689161">Interesting thoughts on cleric...In fact, I think the &quot;cleric&quot; sort of invented the idea of an armored warrior that does miracles.Following Gygax, or perhaps his compatriots, cleric is now an archetype unto itself.That said there was earlier discussion about the nature of clerics vis a vis Paladins.As I see it, much of clerical magic can be found in the Abrahamic religions.&nbsp; Being of the cloth, one might associate them with miracle working saints of a church.&nbsp; The armor and blunt weapons were added with relatively few precedents in churchmen who fought.The paladin is no doubt more Arthurian in flavor with a bit of cleric thrown in.I personally love clerics and the idea of a questing abbot or priest taking the field and armoring up maybe even reluctantly.That their archetypal roots aren't exactly Jungian doesn't make me want to to exclude them.&nbsp; They're cooler than that.&nbsp; They're gygaxian.(I hear they were mapped on van helsing too...again, no heartburn for me!).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warpiglet, post: 7867809, member: 6689161"] Interesting thoughts on cleric... In fact, I think the "cleric" sort of invented the idea of an armored warrior that does miracles. Following Gygax, or perhaps his compatriots, cleric is now an archetype unto itself. That said there was earlier discussion about the nature of clerics vis a vis Paladins. As I see it, much of clerical magic can be found in the Abrahamic religions. Being of the cloth, one might associate them with miracle working saints of a church. The armor and blunt weapons were added with relatively few precedents in churchmen who fought. The paladin is no doubt more Arthurian in flavor with a bit of cleric thrown in. I personally love clerics and the idea of a questing abbot or priest taking the field and armoring up maybe even reluctantly. That their archetypal roots aren't exactly Jungian doesn't make me want to to exclude them. They're cooler than that. They're gygaxian. (I hear they were mapped on van helsing too...again, no heartburn for me!). [/QUOTE]

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