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<blockquote data-quote="Big J Money" data-source="post: 7869167" data-attributes="member: 70533">I own the PHBook, but I'm not using it in the LMoP campaign I'm running for some new players.&nbsp; I'm restricting this game to only the materials that come in the boxed starter set until they complete it.&nbsp; You'd be correct in guessing that I don't own other supplements, however.&nbsp; I certainly have not seen the full range of subclasses.&nbsp; My knowledge of subclasses comes from:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">PHBook</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Reading the names of new classes / subclasses added to books in the DnDBeyond product contents lists</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">These and other forums around the web for the last years since following the &quot;D&amp;D Next&quot; beta, and reviews, etc</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">More than a dozen of my friends / co-workers who have been playing 5E since D&amp;D Next</li>
</ul>Even with all this exposure, I'll agree that I could be overstating the problem in my reaction to the OP.&nbsp; But the conclusions you draw from the info discovered in your sleuthing are nevertheless misleading.&nbsp; And I don't see why you find value in attempting to undermine someone's character / position on a message board about playing games.I want to make it clear that I'm not saying gamism is a problem, in general.&nbsp; I like your choice example however, since I run Theater of the Mind it sounds like you've got my number, to some extent <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Big J Money, post: 7869167, member: 70533"] I own the PHBook, but I'm not using it in the LMoP campaign I'm running for some new players. I'm restricting this game to only the materials that come in the boxed starter set until they complete it. You'd be correct in guessing that I don't own other supplements, however. I certainly have not seen the full range of subclasses. My knowledge of subclasses comes from: [LIST] [*]PHBook [*]Reading the names of new classes / subclasses added to books in the DnDBeyond product contents lists [*]These and other forums around the web for the last years since following the "D&D Next" beta, and reviews, etc [*]More than a dozen of my friends / co-workers who have been playing 5E since D&D Next [/LIST] Even with all this exposure, I'll agree that I could be overstating the problem in my reaction to the OP. But the conclusions you draw from the info discovered in your sleuthing are nevertheless misleading. And I don't see why you find value in attempting to undermine someone's character / position on a message board about playing games. I want to make it clear that I'm not saying gamism is a problem, in general. I like your choice example however, since I run Theater of the Mind it sounds like you've got my number, to some extent ;). [/QUOTE]

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