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<blockquote data-quote="SWBaxter" data-source="post: 2997717" data-attributes="member: 27926">For me, the stuff that sounded good but hasn't turned out so great is:Grappling - reads well, but it's a separate subsystem with its own rules, in play it tends to disrupt the flow of the session when players who aren't familiar with the rules get grappled.Turn Undead - another separate subsystem that disrupts the flow. As others have mentioned, it's also kinda goofy at high levels, and it screws up encounter balance when comparing groups that have a cleric vs. those that don't.Multiclassing - loved it on paper, but the careful planning required to ensure high-level viability for many combos (primarily spellcaster/non-spellcaster) has turned me off. Prestige Classes - some are suites of abilities you can't get from regular classes and feats, some are truly prestigious representing membership in some secret organization, some just cover up other rules hiccups (such as multiclassing with spellcasters)... basically, there's no clear concept of what they're supposed to be.Cascading bonuses and penalties - Loved this when I first picked up 3.0, but over time I've come to really hate the way something like ability buffs or damage cascades through the character sheet, potentially affecting combat bonuses, skills, saves, feats, etc. Just too much bookkeeping, particularly at high levels.That's about it, there's other stuff that grates on me, but these are the ones that looked really good when I first read 'em and turned out to be not so good.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SWBaxter, post: 2997717, member: 27926"] For me, the stuff that sounded good but hasn't turned out so great is: Grappling - reads well, but it's a separate subsystem with its own rules, in play it tends to disrupt the flow of the session when players who aren't familiar with the rules get grappled. Turn Undead - another separate subsystem that disrupts the flow. As others have mentioned, it's also kinda goofy at high levels, and it screws up encounter balance when comparing groups that have a cleric vs. those that don't. Multiclassing - loved it on paper, but the careful planning required to ensure high-level viability for many combos (primarily spellcaster/non-spellcaster) has turned me off. Prestige Classes - some are suites of abilities you can't get from regular classes and feats, some are truly prestigious representing membership in some secret organization, some just cover up other rules hiccups (such as multiclassing with spellcasters)... basically, there's no clear concept of what they're supposed to be. Cascading bonuses and penalties - Loved this when I first picked up 3.0, but over time I've come to really hate the way something like ability buffs or damage cascades through the character sheet, potentially affecting combat bonuses, skills, saves, feats, etc. Just too much bookkeeping, particularly at high levels. That's about it, there's other stuff that grates on me, but these are the ones that looked really good when I first read 'em and turned out to be not so good. [/QUOTE]

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