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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4947775" data-attributes="member: 18280">Please tell me what false dichotomy you think I am positing.&nbsp; A false dichotomy is a choice between two mutually exclusive things (&quot;people matter&quot;/&quot;system matters&quot;), where either there are additional options (hence the dichotomy is false in that it is not a dichotomy) or the options are not mutually exclusive (again, therefore there is no dichotomy).&nbsp; Perhaps you are thinking that I am positing some other kind of logical fallacy instead?Just to be clear, IMHO the OP posits that there is a relationship between the degree that people matter and that system matters.&nbsp; This leads to a false conclusion that, on a scale of 1 to 10, if people matter 7, system can only matter 3.Reading through the responses to this thread, it seems to me that this false conclusion is rampant.Oh, and the mention of 4e threads where the spectre of &quot;The DM is doing it wrong&quot; has already arisen was a specific reply to the claim that it is easier to simply not use the rules presented in a complex-rules game (such as 3e or 4e) than it is to add rules to a rules-lite game (such as 0e).My point was that there is no difference.....and you clearly got that point, even if you didn't understand the context!RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 4947775, member: 18280"] Please tell me what false dichotomy you think I am positing. A false dichotomy is a choice between two mutually exclusive things ("people matter"/"system matters"), where either there are additional options (hence the dichotomy is false in that it is not a dichotomy) or the options are not mutually exclusive (again, therefore there is no dichotomy). Perhaps you are thinking that I am positing some other kind of logical fallacy instead? Just to be clear, IMHO the OP posits that there is a relationship between the degree that people matter and that system matters. This leads to a false conclusion that, on a scale of 1 to 10, if people matter 7, system can only matter 3. Reading through the responses to this thread, it seems to me that this false conclusion is rampant. Oh, and the mention of 4e threads where the spectre of "The DM is doing it wrong" has already arisen was a specific reply to the claim that it is easier to simply not use the rules presented in a complex-rules game (such as 3e or 4e) than it is to add rules to a rules-lite game (such as 0e). My point was that there is no difference.....and you clearly got that point, even if you didn't understand the context! RC [/QUOTE]

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