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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3148711" data-attributes="member: 1656">Spells cast on you are not vulnerable to dispel magic as normal.  They are vulnerable to dispel magic only under special conditions not found in the description of dispel magic; they are therefore vulnerable to dispel magic, but not as normal.Right.The original spell - say Arcane Sight - must still exist in order to have an effect.  As I read it, both Arcane Sight and Permanency are in effect, and either can be dispelled.  As Thanee reads it, Permanency changes the duration of Arcane Sight (which remains in effect), and goes away.  In either case, Arcane Sight is still there, and if it's still there, it can be dispelled.You're trying to claim that once you cast a Tenacious Permanency, you somehow get to apply the Tenacious effect to a spell that is not Permanency.  I can't see how that's supportable by any twisting of logic.  If you're benefiting from Arcane Sight, Arcane Sight is in effect on you.  Its duration is permanent, but the only way to make it Tenacious is to apply the Tenacious effect to Arcane Sight.  If you apply it to Permanency, you end up with a Permanency that cannot be dispelled, but since Arcane Sight is not Tenacious (the only thing Tenacious is the spell that's changing its duration), Arcane Sight, once dispelled, isn't coming back.Either take the feat for the spell you actually want to be non-dispellable, or don't... but you can't make the feat applied to one spell cause it to affect another spell.You might try something like applying Tenacious Magic to one of the Anyspell spells, and using that to create the effects you wish to apply Permanency to.-Hyp.</blockquote>

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