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<blockquote data-quote="Brown Jenkin" data-source="post: 3928137" data-attributes="member: 2572"><p>I would agree that it is good light fare but not trying to be great TV. For Me I would put great on shows that can do one of the following:</p><p></p><p>1. Take an established concept and do it better than most things in its class. For Sitcoms that is shows like The Mary Tyler Moore Show or Seinfeld or for Sci-Fi for things like B5.</p><p></p><p>2. Shows that manage to last for very very long periods of time. Things like Gunsmoke (20 seasons), The Simpsons (19 Seasons), or Law & Order (18 Seasons).</p><p></p><p>3. Shows that redefine or create new categories. Things like this are what the academics study. Things like Hill Street Blues, Sopranos, or I Love Lucy.</p><p></p><p>4. Shows that may not last or be outstanding in their own right but hit some cultural cord that propels them, their stars or certain ideas permanently into general society. This is shows like Star Trek, Baywatch (Yeah I know it sucks but who in the world doesn't know it), or the 1960's Batman. </p><p></p><p>Reaper to me comes closest to #1 but falls short. It has good acting and writing, but not good enough to be great. Then again as others have pointed out it is not trying to be great, just consistently good. As for the others I don't think it has any chance at #2 and it certainly doesn't rate at all for #3. As for #4 while it is still possible that it could catch on nationally, I doubt it. </p><p></p><p>As for Great shows on TV right now I would have to go with.</p><p></p><p>The Simpsons (#1 at times in its history, #2, #3 possibly, and #4)</p><p>Law & Order (#2 and #3 possibly)</p><p>Pushing Daisies (#1 and #3)</p><p>Survivor (#3 and #4) [I don't watch it but it did redefine reality game shows and things like being voted off the island have entered the mainstream]</p><p>American Idol (#3) [I don't watch it either but it did basically create the audience vote game shows as we know them]</p><p>Scrubs (#1)</p><p></p><p>There might be some others on right now that I don't watch that could fall into #1. While I don't watch them I have heard good things about Monk and The Wire and I am sure there are others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brown Jenkin, post: 3928137, member: 2572"] I would agree that it is good light fare but not trying to be great TV. For Me I would put great on shows that can do one of the following: 1. Take an established concept and do it better than most things in its class. For Sitcoms that is shows like The Mary Tyler Moore Show or Seinfeld or for Sci-Fi for things like B5. 2. Shows that manage to last for very very long periods of time. Things like Gunsmoke (20 seasons), The Simpsons (19 Seasons), or Law & Order (18 Seasons). 3. Shows that redefine or create new categories. Things like this are what the academics study. Things like Hill Street Blues, Sopranos, or I Love Lucy. 4. Shows that may not last or be outstanding in their own right but hit some cultural cord that propels them, their stars or certain ideas permanently into general society. This is shows like Star Trek, Baywatch (Yeah I know it sucks but who in the world doesn't know it), or the 1960's Batman. Reaper to me comes closest to #1 but falls short. It has good acting and writing, but not good enough to be great. Then again as others have pointed out it is not trying to be great, just consistently good. As for the others I don't think it has any chance at #2 and it certainly doesn't rate at all for #3. As for #4 while it is still possible that it could catch on nationally, I doubt it. As for Great shows on TV right now I would have to go with. The Simpsons (#1 at times in its history, #2, #3 possibly, and #4) Law & Order (#2 and #3 possibly) Pushing Daisies (#1 and #3) Survivor (#3 and #4) [I don't watch it but it did redefine reality game shows and things like being voted off the island have entered the mainstream] American Idol (#3) [I don't watch it either but it did basically create the audience vote game shows as we know them] Scrubs (#1) There might be some others on right now that I don't watch that could fall into #1. While I don't watch them I have heard good things about Monk and The Wire and I am sure there are others. [/QUOTE]
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