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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7926402" data-attributes="member: 6987520"><p>Well, I don't think you're being reasonable since you seem to be ignoring my points and instead telling me just your side of the discussion--so a tad bit of snarkiness feels warranted. I've felt in on your side, so I am only being fair. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>So, how do elves (or anyone for that matter) perceive things? Through their senses, which are "keen" and thus every elf gains proficiency in what??? Perception! <em>ding</em> <em>ding ding</em> Tell him what he's won, Johnny! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>(Ok, ok... snarkiness over....)</p><p></p><p>If you view perception as you do by the bolded statement, you are ignoring parts of what the game designed perception as being. That is your prerogative, of course. Here is the text on perception in full:</p><p></p><p><strong><em>Perception.</em></strong><em> Your Wisdom (Perception) check lets you spot, hear, or otherwise detect the presence of something. It measures your general awareness of your surroundings and the <u>keenness of your senses</u>.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>For example, you might try to hear a conversation through a closed door, eavesdrop under an open window, or hear monsters moving stealthily in the forest. Or you might try to spot things that are obscured or easy to miss, whether they are orcs lying in ambush on a road, thugs hiding in the shadows of an alley, or candlelight under a closed secret door.</em></p><p></p><p>So, part of perception <em>is visual acuity</em>, part of it is hearing, smell, etc. as well as general awareness and being "present in the moment" as you said. But you seem to be limiting perception to only once facet (ignoring the "keenness of your senses" part) when there are more. That would be like limiting stealth to only hiding, when it also moving quietly and other things, too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 7926402, member: 6987520"] Well, I don't think you're being reasonable since you seem to be ignoring my points and instead telling me just your side of the discussion--so a tad bit of snarkiness feels warranted. I've felt in on your side, so I am only being fair. ;) So, how do elves (or anyone for that matter) perceive things? Through their senses, which are "keen" and thus every elf gains proficiency in what??? Perception! [I]ding[/I] [I]ding ding[/I] Tell him what he's won, Johnny! :) (Ok, ok... snarkiness over....) If you view perception as you do by the bolded statement, you are ignoring parts of what the game designed perception as being. That is your prerogative, of course. Here is the text on perception in full: [B][I]Perception.[/I][/B][I] Your Wisdom (Perception) check lets you spot, hear, or otherwise detect the presence of something. It measures your general awareness of your surroundings and the [U]keenness of your senses[/U]. For example, you might try to hear a conversation through a closed door, eavesdrop under an open window, or hear monsters moving stealthily in the forest. Or you might try to spot things that are obscured or easy to miss, whether they are orcs lying in ambush on a road, thugs hiding in the shadows of an alley, or candlelight under a closed secret door.[/I] So, part of perception [I]is visual acuity[/I], part of it is hearing, smell, etc. as well as general awareness and being "present in the moment" as you said. But you seem to be limiting perception to only once facet (ignoring the "keenness of your senses" part) when there are more. That would be like limiting stealth to only hiding, when it also moving quietly and other things, too. [/QUOTE]
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