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<blockquote data-quote="chriton227" data-source="post: 6536164" data-attributes="member: 33263"><p>I agree with you completely from a player and usability issue, but I was trying to respond to the OP regarding the desire for an OGL type license. Regardless of what people think is or is not D&D, the OGL license is a business construct. We saw when 4e came out that the GSL was far more restrictive than the OGL, which to me points out that someone in power at WotC or Hasbro thought that the OGL was too permissive. Then after the 4e GSL, Pathfinder was released and surpassed 4e in sales, which I'm sure was not looked on favorably by the bean counters; after all Pathfinder was legally using rules that WotC spent a lot of time and money developing and WotC wasn't getting a cut of it, making the OGL look like a bad financial move for WotC. I think this chain of events makes it unlikely that we will see anything resembling the OGL come out for 5e. I still hold out hope that there will be some form 3PP license, and hopefully it will find a middleground between the very permissive OGL and the very restrictive GSL, but there is a distinct possibility that there will either end up being no license, or that the license or the process to become a licensee will be so restrictive that no 3PPs will be willing to use it.</p><p></p><p>And the OGL is a completely separate licensing discussion from the one about branded products. The OGL is all about 3PPs making RPG books that are compatible with 5e, and has nothing to do with WotC/Hasbro making (or working with other companies to make) D&D branded non-RPG book products. The state of an OGL style license wouldn't have any impact on whether WotC/Hasbro releases the Fantasy Heroes of MLP line featuring Drippy Drizzt and Moonshine Selune, but it would determine whether someone could release a supplement for 5e to allow players to play talking ponies with magic abilities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="chriton227, post: 6536164, member: 33263"] I agree with you completely from a player and usability issue, but I was trying to respond to the OP regarding the desire for an OGL type license. Regardless of what people think is or is not D&D, the OGL license is a business construct. We saw when 4e came out that the GSL was far more restrictive than the OGL, which to me points out that someone in power at WotC or Hasbro thought that the OGL was too permissive. Then after the 4e GSL, Pathfinder was released and surpassed 4e in sales, which I'm sure was not looked on favorably by the bean counters; after all Pathfinder was legally using rules that WotC spent a lot of time and money developing and WotC wasn't getting a cut of it, making the OGL look like a bad financial move for WotC. I think this chain of events makes it unlikely that we will see anything resembling the OGL come out for 5e. I still hold out hope that there will be some form 3PP license, and hopefully it will find a middleground between the very permissive OGL and the very restrictive GSL, but there is a distinct possibility that there will either end up being no license, or that the license or the process to become a licensee will be so restrictive that no 3PPs will be willing to use it. And the OGL is a completely separate licensing discussion from the one about branded products. The OGL is all about 3PPs making RPG books that are compatible with 5e, and has nothing to do with WotC/Hasbro making (or working with other companies to make) D&D branded non-RPG book products. The state of an OGL style license wouldn't have any impact on whether WotC/Hasbro releases the Fantasy Heroes of MLP line featuring Drippy Drizzt and Moonshine Selune, but it would determine whether someone could release a supplement for 5e to allow players to play talking ponies with magic abilities. [/QUOTE]
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