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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 6553109" data-attributes="member: 957">So your prior statement may not be accurate?They used their stuff, but would reprint everything needed.Which is it?Heh, you still don't know that 100K # is true.  And the fact that they pulled the plug seems to just put it that much more in question.Right, we don't.  I do know that the people in meatspace actually talking about 4E dropped off and PF was everywhere.  But we don't know numbers.Of course, this is also true of DDI.  I'm very familiar with the argument for the #.  And it has always included the leap of faith that the numbers started at 1 and WotC was willing to make this presumed massive revenue matter readily public.  The alternative that the actual baseline was hidden and they didn't just decide to drop 100K monthly subscriptions fees for no good reason is just ignored.But whatever, I'm not even going to worry about convincing you of something you simply don't want to believe.  You assured me over and over that I was clueless about 4E's fate and now you describe that period as "4e died".  It doesn't matter.All the data we do have strongly suggests that PF was kicking 4E's butt.  You don't have any alternative of success to point at.   If the best thing going isn't anywhere near good enough for WotC, then nothing will be anywhere near good enough for WotC.  So you are not arguing that your plan does a better job of sustaining 5E, you are just arguing that doing an inferior job of sustaining 5E is no problem because the best alternative still isn't good enough.  I'm not convinced that is even true.  But you are correct that we don't know that part.  I do presume they have a realistic ballpark idea and if it was as bad as you paint it, they would not have bothered with what they have done.</blockquote>

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