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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6558955" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>The presumption here is that even if the majority had loved 4e, then they would have kept 4e in print. Thing is, 4e had a pretty much unattainable goal - to become a core Hasbro product. To do so, it would have had to nearly triple the size of the TTRPG market, all on its own. Even had it been absolutely adored by every single D&D fan, it still wouldn't continue to be in print because there was no way it was going to achieve that goal. </p><p></p><p>Again, I'll ask you, why did we see the end of 3.0 after two years? Was it that hated by D&D fans?</p><p></p><p>That's the problem with this argument. "Well, this edition was popular with fans, therefore it must be commercially viable". That's only true if the fans are actually buying enough product to make it commercially viable, and that viability is set at a particular benchmark. People make a big deal out of Paizo being top of the charts for a couple of years. But, it was only top of the charts when it had to compete against non-D&D products. It's not that Paizo's market share has grown, it's that the market was just that much smaller. It wasn't that everyone who stopped buying 4e stared buying Pathfinder. They just stopped buying D&D products altogether (although I'm sure some bought Paizo stuff too). </p><p></p><p>The next three or four quarters are going to be very, very interesting times. </p><p></p><p>But, [MENTION=55961]goldomark[/MENTION], if (and I am saying if) WOTC stays top of the charts, how long will it be before you change your tune? Your entire argument presumes a pretty swift fall in rankings for WOTC D&D. What will you do if you are wrong and WOTC stays top of the pile?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6558955, member: 22779"] The presumption here is that even if the majority had loved 4e, then they would have kept 4e in print. Thing is, 4e had a pretty much unattainable goal - to become a core Hasbro product. To do so, it would have had to nearly triple the size of the TTRPG market, all on its own. Even had it been absolutely adored by every single D&D fan, it still wouldn't continue to be in print because there was no way it was going to achieve that goal. Again, I'll ask you, why did we see the end of 3.0 after two years? Was it that hated by D&D fans? That's the problem with this argument. "Well, this edition was popular with fans, therefore it must be commercially viable". That's only true if the fans are actually buying enough product to make it commercially viable, and that viability is set at a particular benchmark. People make a big deal out of Paizo being top of the charts for a couple of years. But, it was only top of the charts when it had to compete against non-D&D products. It's not that Paizo's market share has grown, it's that the market was just that much smaller. It wasn't that everyone who stopped buying 4e stared buying Pathfinder. They just stopped buying D&D products altogether (although I'm sure some bought Paizo stuff too). The next three or four quarters are going to be very, very interesting times. But, [MENTION=55961]goldomark[/MENTION], if (and I am saying if) WOTC stays top of the charts, how long will it be before you change your tune? Your entire argument presumes a pretty swift fall in rankings for WOTC D&D. What will you do if you are wrong and WOTC stays top of the pile? [/QUOTE]
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