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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6565791" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>The whole point of Pathfinder is that it's a continuation of 3.5: not just a chance to keep playing 3.5 (which could anyway), but a chance to buy validation of your loyalty to 3.5 by wallet-voting for your 'team.' It's a successful business model for Paizo, in part because they are relatively small and agile, able to keep feeding their fanbase what they need to feel validated, and able to do very well off that kind of volume, in part because they walked away from their arrangement with WotC with a juicy mailing list of the game's most dedicated fans. All of which, yes, points to established fans as their audience.</p><p></p><p>However, the Pathfinder Society's zeal is not limited by business models, and they do make an extraordinary effort to get the game out there in organized play. They hit conventions, stores, trawl for new gamers in person and on-line. At least around here (SF bay area) they seem to put even more effort into it than the AL.</p><p></p><p></p><p> D&D is very much a gateway to the hobby. Pathfinder is very much the same gateway. It's just a matter of whether you walk into a store where PFS is running a table or one where Encounters is happening that night. You say you want to try D&D, the Pathfinder guys will introduce you to the 'real' D&D, as readily as AL will to the official. Whether you start with 5e or Pathfinder, you're likely to have a very similar experience of and reaction to they hobby. (No Pathfinder DM is going to throw the whole universe of rules bloat at a new player, for instance.)</p><p></p><p> D&D shows no sign of going away, and, even if Hasbro makes it go away, the d20 OGL is still there, and clones can take up the slack. When people go looking for D&D they'll hear 'oh, there's a Pathfinder/13A/whatever-a-5e-clone-might-be-called' game running at such-and-such store, between M:tG tournaments,' try it out, and probably hate it, but maybe not, maybe they'll be another new instant fan - and the hobby will limp along like always, tiny, but dedicated.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6565791, member: 996"] The whole point of Pathfinder is that it's a continuation of 3.5: not just a chance to keep playing 3.5 (which could anyway), but a chance to buy validation of your loyalty to 3.5 by wallet-voting for your 'team.' It's a successful business model for Paizo, in part because they are relatively small and agile, able to keep feeding their fanbase what they need to feel validated, and able to do very well off that kind of volume, in part because they walked away from their arrangement with WotC with a juicy mailing list of the game's most dedicated fans. All of which, yes, points to established fans as their audience. However, the Pathfinder Society's zeal is not limited by business models, and they do make an extraordinary effort to get the game out there in organized play. They hit conventions, stores, trawl for new gamers in person and on-line. At least around here (SF bay area) they seem to put even more effort into it than the AL. D&D is very much a gateway to the hobby. Pathfinder is very much the same gateway. It's just a matter of whether you walk into a store where PFS is running a table or one where Encounters is happening that night. You say you want to try D&D, the Pathfinder guys will introduce you to the 'real' D&D, as readily as AL will to the official. Whether you start with 5e or Pathfinder, you're likely to have a very similar experience of and reaction to they hobby. (No Pathfinder DM is going to throw the whole universe of rules bloat at a new player, for instance.) D&D shows no sign of going away, and, even if Hasbro makes it go away, the d20 OGL is still there, and clones can take up the slack. When people go looking for D&D they'll hear 'oh, there's a Pathfinder/13A/whatever-a-5e-clone-might-be-called' game running at such-and-such store, between M:tG tournaments,' try it out, and probably hate it, but maybe not, maybe they'll be another new instant fan - and the hobby will limp along like always, tiny, but dedicated. [/QUOTE]
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