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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9239853"><p>I definitely have no interest in another Lovecraft-HOward Racism discussion (I feel like all those points have been addressed in multiple threads and there isn't much value in getting into them again. One thing I will say as the question of how  exceptional  either of them were for their time and place has been raised: This stuff was written at the height of Eugenics and racialist science, as the Nazi's were rising in Germany, when segregation and Jim Crow Laws were in full swing in the US, the KKK was reaching heights of popularity, and lynchings were very common. Racism was very widespread, even in the North East and New England (where it often focused more on the kinds of things you see in Lovecraft). I think it is an abuse of history when we try to paint either of them as particularly exceptional in order to make a point about the value of their work</p></blockquote><p></p>