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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8733158" data-attributes="member: 6987520">I disagree. I think the monk does do them well.AC 15 in tier 1 is decent. A rogue with DEX 16 will also have AC 15. A greatweapon fighter with heavy armor is likely AC 16, etc.The monk is right there with them. Now, what I think is the DEX + WIS model should be replaced with DEX + WIS + Proficiency bonus (or the best two of those three, removing a little of the MAD for monks).Ki is adequate IME, but I understand why many people feel they need more ki, and adding WIS mod ki points solves that issue IMO.The +10 speed of monks at 2nd level and beyond is all the time. Rogues can Dash each round, but at the expense of other bonus actions. The extra movement of monks is constant and goes to +30 in the end.Either replacing DEX or WIS with proficiency bonus would allow a Monk to get AC 21 in tier 4. Using all three might be too strong, but will remove some of the MAD dependency as I said.Bonus attacks are already there. Adding a bit more ki allows more uses, which is sufficient to me. Even without it, at level 5 monks can get three attacks each round anyway.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8733158, member: 6987520"] I disagree. I think the monk does do them well. AC 15 in tier 1 is decent. A rogue with DEX 16 will also have AC 15. A greatweapon fighter with heavy armor is likely AC 16, etc. The monk is right there with them. Now, what I think is the DEX + WIS model should be replaced with DEX + WIS + Proficiency bonus (or the best two of those three, removing a little of the MAD for monks). Ki is adequate IME, but I understand why many people feel they need more ki, and adding WIS mod ki points solves that issue IMO. The +10 speed of monks at 2nd level and beyond is all the time. Rogues [I]can[/I] Dash each round, but at the expense of other bonus actions. The extra movement of monks is constant and goes to +30 in the end. Either replacing DEX or WIS with proficiency bonus would allow a Monk to get AC 21 in tier 4. Using all three might be too strong, but will remove some of the MAD dependency as I said. Bonus attacks are already there. Adding a bit more ki allows more uses, which is sufficient to me. Even without it, at level 5 monks can get three attacks each round anyway. [/QUOTE]

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