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<blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 5613893" data-attributes="member: 5038">Umbran, not so much he did it to me. I had just woken up so, maybe, it was not a good choice of words.&nbsp;&nbsp;I kept hitting the point so, maybe, he would realize he was just stating opinion and not fact. In my opinion, 4e has its good points and bad points. as does 3e.&nbsp; Many people that dislike 4e on these boards&nbsp; have stated similar opinion.&nbsp; Catastrophic ranting and outright dismissing the preferences of others and their experience, because he holds the objective &quot;Truth&quot;, was just not rude to everyone that disagrees it it left no room for discussion.&nbsp; I can't be anything, but dismissive of his post, because his position comes off as myopic.&nbsp; However, trying to point out that he is only stating his opinion based on his experience and preference and that does not make it an objective truth was not being dismissive. It was pointing out that all he was stating was opinion and&nbsp; that he does not hold some universal Truth with a capital &quot;T&quot; as to the basis of other's opinions. People have stated what they dislike about 4e. He may disagree and that is fine.&nbsp; If they misrepresent something as written in one of the books, he is fine to correct them by quoting a passage. Maybe, he will convince someone to see an aspect of the game in a new light. However, to rant and make&nbsp; the &quot;extraordinary&quot; claims that he did and deny the validity of fellow posters, he better come with proof, because, as you stated, he is the one making those claims.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greg K, post: 5613893, member: 5038"] Umbran, not so much he did it to me. I had just woken up so, maybe, it was not a good choice of words. I kept hitting the point so, maybe, he would realize he was just stating opinion and not fact. In my opinion, 4e has its good points and bad points. as does 3e. Many people that dislike 4e on these boards have stated similar opinion. Catastrophic ranting and outright dismissing the preferences of others and their experience, because he holds the objective "Truth", was just not rude to everyone that disagrees it it left no room for discussion. I can't be anything, but dismissive of his post, because his position comes off as myopic. However, trying to point out that he is only stating his opinion based on his experience and preference and that does not make it an objective truth was not being dismissive. It was pointing out that all he was stating was opinion and that he does not hold some universal Truth with a capital "T" as to the basis of other's opinions. People have stated what they dislike about 4e. He may disagree and that is fine. If they misrepresent something as written in one of the books, he is fine to correct them by quoting a passage. Maybe, he will convince someone to see an aspect of the game in a new light. However, to rant and make the "extraordinary" claims that he did and deny the validity of fellow posters, he better come with proof, because, as you stated, he is the one making those claims. [/QUOTE]

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