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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 5617997" data-attributes="member: 6957">4e isn't D&D in a large number of substantiable ways - but the only unopposable defense and the one that matters legally is that it is the current game under that title by the trademark holder.For many people that is the least important way.I do not say that 4e is not D&D, I do say that is the first edition of 4e that I have no interest in either playing or running. If pressed then I will say that it is a bad edition of D&D, which is true in my opinion.Other people do not care about the legalities, and feel that it has changed too much from what was D&D to be worthy of the name.Yet other folks consider it to be a good edition of D&D, if not the best.At least one considers OD&D to be the one true edition of the game, with all others being pale imitations, 4e, 3.X, and all the rest.As a non-fan of 4e I have seen the mods stomp on folks who were too vocal in their annoyance with 4e and their dislike of either the game or its players. To me it looked like they were partial towards 4e.Going through the archives, on the other hand, and actually taking note, it is the tone the folks were taking, not the message that they were carrying.Frankly, there are folks on both sides that the mods should stomp more firmly, who cannot seem to grasp the difference between fact and opinion. But whom are more than willing to share what they consider to be carved in stone fact, then complain that they are being treated unfairly when it is pointed out that what they are saying is not fact, but opinion....The Auld Grump*EDIT* Just to make it completely plain - yes, both sides! There is at least one pro 3.X/Pathfinder evangelist who is the exactly the same in not respecting others's opinions.</blockquote>

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