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<blockquote data-quote="catastrophic" data-source="post: 5618693" data-attributes="member: 81381"><p>Actually that's not a solution at all, that's just a cop-out people use when they don't want to seriously discuss design in any concrete terms, but still want to bash their least favorite edition of D&D. </p><p> </p><p>Here's an example. Say I decide that the design of 3e is inherently supportive of fascism. Why? </p><p> </p><p>Well the monocultural and supremacist qualities of the 'adventurer' caste, the overt racist themes, the role of wealth in the creation of military might, the inherent argument for systemic indoctrination present in the alignment system, and the doctrine of total war as embodied by the fireball spell. </p><p> </p><p>Now, you might disagree with this, but that's just your opinion. My opinon is that 3e totally supports fascism, and argues that it is the only viable form of real-world government, and to be honest i'm a little. . suspicious of the designers of 3e, and their role in this. I mean, 3e is pretty clear pro-fachist propaganda. . in my opinion.</p><p> </p><p>And i'm going to turn up in every thread about 3e, and many threads which have nothing to do with 3e, and tout my theory. But of course, it's just my opinion. And a bunch of other people do the same. . against, just their 'O'.</p><p> </p><p>Now, are you allowed to disagree with me? Of course- but that's just your opinion, <em>nothing more</em>. I can ignore every argument you make, even cases when my assertions are clearly testable (like my claims that monte cook spent several decades cryogenically frozen at the south pole after his final ww2-era battle with captain america), I can just say that it's your opinion, because really, who can say for sure? Have you ever even <em>been</em> to the south pole?</p><p> </p><p>You can't reach a conclusion in your debate with me, because that's just your opinion. You can't summarise the debate to other people, unless you qualify that summary with multiple "IMO YMMV" weasel-words, and note that your opinion is 'nothing'- nothing but an opinion, but the important thing is, it's nothing.</p><p> </p><p>You can't ask the mods for me and my increasingly obnoxious friends to be silenced, because no mattter how bizzare our assesment, it's <em>our opinion</em>, and opinions are sacred and cannot be wrong.</p><p> </p><p>And we'll keep banging on year after year, on forums, comments pages, reviews, and more, saying a bunch of stuff that doesn't make any sense, making rather nasty veiled statements about the motives and mindsets of fellow fans who happen to work in the industry, and we'll do it all with pride, under the mighty banner of 'IMO'.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="catastrophic, post: 5618693, member: 81381"] Actually that's not a solution at all, that's just a cop-out people use when they don't want to seriously discuss design in any concrete terms, but still want to bash their least favorite edition of D&D. Here's an example. Say I decide that the design of 3e is inherently supportive of fascism. Why? Well the monocultural and supremacist qualities of the 'adventurer' caste, the overt racist themes, the role of wealth in the creation of military might, the inherent argument for systemic indoctrination present in the alignment system, and the doctrine of total war as embodied by the fireball spell. Now, you might disagree with this, but that's just your opinion. My opinon is that 3e totally supports fascism, and argues that it is the only viable form of real-world government, and to be honest i'm a little. . suspicious of the designers of 3e, and their role in this. I mean, 3e is pretty clear pro-fachist propaganda. . in my opinion. And i'm going to turn up in every thread about 3e, and many threads which have nothing to do with 3e, and tout my theory. But of course, it's just my opinion. And a bunch of other people do the same. . against, just their 'O'. Now, are you allowed to disagree with me? Of course- but that's just your opinion, [I]nothing more[/I]. I can ignore every argument you make, even cases when my assertions are clearly testable (like my claims that monte cook spent several decades cryogenically frozen at the south pole after his final ww2-era battle with captain america), I can just say that it's your opinion, because really, who can say for sure? Have you ever even [I]been[/I] to the south pole? You can't reach a conclusion in your debate with me, because that's just your opinion. You can't summarise the debate to other people, unless you qualify that summary with multiple "IMO YMMV" weasel-words, and note that your opinion is 'nothing'- nothing but an opinion, but the important thing is, it's nothing. You can't ask the mods for me and my increasingly obnoxious friends to be silenced, because no mattter how bizzare our assesment, it's [I]our opinion[/I], and opinions are sacred and cannot be wrong. And we'll keep banging on year after year, on forums, comments pages, reviews, and more, saying a bunch of stuff that doesn't make any sense, making rather nasty veiled statements about the motives and mindsets of fellow fans who happen to work in the industry, and we'll do it all with pride, under the mighty banner of 'IMO'. [/QUOTE]
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