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Rebutting a fallacy: why I await 5e (without holding my breath)
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<blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 5621643" data-attributes="member: 6957"><p>Sorry, but I am afraid that I have disagreed with several of your posts, and this is another such.</p><p></p><p>First off - in what way are Paizo weasels? They produce good solid games with good solid support. They have built upon a system that WotC abandoned, with a license that allowed exactly that, a license that I believe was <em>intended</em> to allow exactly that, going by several of the authors of said license.</p><p></p><p>They did not create the rules in their original form, but did improve them - and have claimed nothing more than exactly that. In what way does this make them weasels?</p><p></p><p>Also, the Beginner's Box is levels 1-5, which may have been what you meant, not 1-15, which is what you wrote.</p><p></p><p>Feats do have a place in the 3.X architecture, and while I do not play, nor have any desire to play, 4e, I have no trouble believing that they serve their purpose in that architecture as well.</p><p></p><p>I will take three saves as opposed to the overly narrow focus of saves in AD&D 1 & 2. I will keep the feats, and the systems that hold together in a coherent hole over the mixed systems of the TSR days - I will take an attack bonus over a THAC0 any day of the week.</p><p></p><p>I also don't think that 3.X or Pathfinder is overly complicated, nor do I think that non-casters are as gimped as you seem to think. If the games are such that you need medication, perhaps you should see a doctor? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>More seriously, it sounds like you should avoid D&D from AD&D on - there are other games out there that might suit your tastes better. Have you tried True20? True20 has become my default for when I want a generic system that I can tailor to fit a setting.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps you should focus more on what you <em>want</em> in a game rather than rant about games that are not to your personal tastes. C&C is not to my personal taste, but there are folks who like it. Osric is much the same in regards to my preferences, but perhaps it would be more in line with your own tastes?</p><p></p><p>Find a game and shout its praises rather than rail against an uncaring sky. Do not call a company 'weasels' because they do exactly what they claimed to be doing - keeping the edition they enjoyed alive. Why rant at either Paizo or WotC because they do not cater to your own niche? Find something that you <em>do</em> like and play it, leave the medication in its jar.</p><p></p><p>The Auld Grump</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheAuldGrump, post: 5621643, member: 6957"] Sorry, but I am afraid that I have disagreed with several of your posts, and this is another such. First off - in what way are Paizo weasels? They produce good solid games with good solid support. They have built upon a system that WotC abandoned, with a license that allowed exactly that, a license that I believe was [i]intended[/i] to allow exactly that, going by several of the authors of said license. They did not create the rules in their original form, but did improve them - and have claimed nothing more than exactly that. In what way does this make them weasels? Also, the Beginner's Box is levels 1-5, which may have been what you meant, not 1-15, which is what you wrote. Feats do have a place in the 3.X architecture, and while I do not play, nor have any desire to play, 4e, I have no trouble believing that they serve their purpose in that architecture as well. I will take three saves as opposed to the overly narrow focus of saves in AD&D 1 & 2. I will keep the feats, and the systems that hold together in a coherent hole over the mixed systems of the TSR days - I will take an attack bonus over a THAC0 any day of the week. I also don't think that 3.X or Pathfinder is overly complicated, nor do I think that non-casters are as gimped as you seem to think. If the games are such that you need medication, perhaps you should see a doctor? :p More seriously, it sounds like you should avoid D&D from AD&D on - there are other games out there that might suit your tastes better. Have you tried True20? True20 has become my default for when I want a generic system that I can tailor to fit a setting. Perhaps you should focus more on what you [i]want[/i] in a game rather than rant about games that are not to your personal tastes. C&C is not to my personal taste, but there are folks who like it. Osric is much the same in regards to my preferences, but perhaps it would be more in line with your own tastes? Find a game and shout its praises rather than rail against an uncaring sky. Do not call a company 'weasels' because they do exactly what they claimed to be doing - keeping the edition they enjoyed alive. Why rant at either Paizo or WotC because they do not cater to your own niche? Find something that you [i]do[/i] like and play it, leave the medication in its jar. The Auld Grump [/QUOTE]
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