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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 7523952" data-attributes="member: 71699">As a DM I've been generous about what characters can know about creatures that they encounter, using the relevant lore skills (typically Arcana or Nature). Then I started thinking about these three class features -Know Your Enemy - Fighter Battlemaster 7th level1 minute observing or interacting outside of combat, to learn if a creature is equal, superior or inferior to you in two of Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Armor Class, Current hit points, Total class levels (if any), and Fighter class levels (if any).Insightful Manipulator - Rogue Mastermind 9th level1 minute observing or interacting outside of combat, to learn if creature is equal, superior or inferior to you in two of Intelligence, Wisdom, Charisma, Class levels (if any); optionally also a piece of the creature's history or one of its personality traits.Hunter's Sense - Ranger Monster Hunter 3rd levelAs an action, choose one creature you can see within 60' and learn if the creature has any damage immunities, resistances or vulnerabilities, and what they are.The presence of class features to learn those things implies that those things can't be learned without the feature. Also, I think the time or action costs on them are suggestive that recalling lore should also take time or action(s). The vagueness of some of the things learned (equal, superior or inferior HP?!) makes me feel that recalling lore perhaps shouldn't get more concrete information.So what information should recalling lore using those skills give to characters?! And what does it require, in time or other wherewithal?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 7523952, member: 71699"] As a DM I've been generous about what characters can know about creatures that they encounter, using the relevant lore skills (typically Arcana or Nature). Then I started thinking about these three class features - [U][B]Know Your Enemy - Fighter Battlemaster 7th level [/B][/U]1 minute observing or interacting outside of combat, to learn if a creature is equal, superior or inferior to you in two of Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Armor Class, Current hit points, Total class levels (if any), and Fighter class levels (if any). [U][B]Insightful Manipulator - Rogue Mastermind 9th level[/B][/U] 1 minute observing or interacting outside of combat, to learn if creature is equal, superior or inferior to you in two of Intelligence, Wisdom, Charisma, Class levels (if any); optionally also a piece of the creature's history or one of its personality traits. [U][B]Hunter's Sense - Ranger Monster Hunter 3rd level[/B][/U] As an action, choose one creature you can see within 60' and learn if the creature has any damage immunities, resistances or vulnerabilities, and what they are. The presence of class features to learn those things implies that those things can't be learned without the feature. Also, I think the time or action costs on them are suggestive that recalling lore should also take time or action(s). The vagueness of some of the things learned (equal, superior or inferior HP?!) makes me feel that recalling lore perhaps shouldn't get more concrete information. So what information should recalling lore using those skills give to characters?! And what does it require, in time or other wherewithal? [/QUOTE]

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