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<blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 8488566" data-attributes="member: 6778210">You can do that better with two or three words of description about attitude more than you could about alignment, given that there are very wide-ranging disagreements about how things like &quot;Lawful vs Chaotic&quot; relate to societal structures. I've seen people claim that someone who has a strong personal code of honor is both lawful (They are following a strong structural code) and chaotic (They prefer to adhere to their own ideas of right and wrong over the overarching societal structures). Look how long it took for us to get an &quot;Unaligned&quot; spot, or the two different conceptions of &quot;True Neutral&quot;.<img src="https://c.tenor.com/FE6caXZ5sS0AAAAC/confused-wth.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />I've not seen either of those as much as it seemingly causes a bunch of problematic issues, especially in regards to pigeonholing sentient races in poor ways. Given how utterly vestigial alignment is at this point (now that even the spells that used to be associated with it no longer key off it) we might as well put it in the DMG under optional rules. It's more impactful as a meme than it really is as a tool within the game nowadays.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Justice and Rule, post: 8488566, member: 6778210"] You can do that better with two or three words of description about attitude more than you could about alignment, given that there are very wide-ranging disagreements about how things like "Lawful vs Chaotic" relate to societal structures. I've seen people claim that someone who has a strong personal code of honor is both lawful (They are following a strong structural code) and chaotic (They prefer to adhere to their own ideas of right and wrong over the overarching societal structures). Look how long it took for us to get an "Unaligned" spot, or the two different conceptions of "True Neutral". [IMG]https://c.tenor.com/FE6caXZ5sS0AAAAC/confused-wth.gif[/IMG] I've not seen either of those as much as it seemingly causes a bunch of problematic issues, especially in regards to pigeonholing sentient races in poor ways. Given how utterly vestigial alignment is at this point (now that even the spells that used to be associated with it no longer key off it) we might as well put it in the DMG under optional rules. It's more impactful as a meme than it really is as a tool within the game nowadays. [/QUOTE]

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