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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 4726310" data-attributes="member: 82504">Thanks for the critique.Yes for an attack powers with a single attack roll yup that works. The primary reason to use a roll that is a part of the action it is used with (that might not be an an attack.)Abilities that don't have a single attack roll will associated will need to be granted a sort of saving throw for recovery.There it is ! yup thanks, the reason to use a distinct threshold value that is independent of the other modifiers. ie if they are making a single attack roll power they could then compare the same die roll independently + level mod  + attribute mod. versus a DC  20 + half power level.  Dailies would still only allow another use that day. and encounters another use during that encounter.If they arent making a distinct attack roll to invoke the power then they make a saving throw styled  as above.We could still say the die roll represents basic performance quality in terms of it being obvious or using up the components... but other modifiers to the end results are indepent of whether the power refreshes.Does that work a little better (I know just adding a d6 roll like the monsters is getting prettier by the second)Thanks</blockquote>