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<blockquote data-quote="Illithidbix" data-source="post: 7039153" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>So... I presume the use of this is to try to use the Bonus Action shove to knock the target prone (granting Advantage on attacks made within 5') *before* choosing whether you use reckless attack, yes?</p><p></p><p>Trying to understand RAW... to go through all the issues: that the exact wording on shield mastery</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Since there is no timing specified on the bonus action, then you can make the shove BEFORE the attack - this matches the rules on bonus attacks and also has been confirmed in at least a Crawford tweet. (<a href="http://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/01/29/shield-master-feat/" target="_blank">http://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/01/29/shield-master-feat/</a>)</p><p></p><p>Now, it does mean that your action has to be the attack action, despite you not yet rolling to hit when you do the shove.</p><p></p><p>Now if you really want to get into semantics compare:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Personally my RAW interpretation would go with the elegant "attack roll" guideline.</p><p>As a DM, I would probably allow that.</p><p></p><p>I would however think it matches the *intent* of Reckless attack if my DM decided that I needed to declare before I use my bonus shield shove and would endeavour not to be a whiny **** about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Illithidbix, post: 7039153, member: 12283"] So... I presume the use of this is to try to use the Bonus Action shove to knock the target prone (granting Advantage on attacks made within 5') *before* choosing whether you use reckless attack, yes? Trying to understand RAW... to go through all the issues: that the exact wording on shield mastery Since there is no timing specified on the bonus action, then you can make the shove BEFORE the attack - this matches the rules on bonus attacks and also has been confirmed in at least a Crawford tweet. ([url]http://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/01/29/shield-master-feat/[/url]) Now, it does mean that your action has to be the attack action, despite you not yet rolling to hit when you do the shove. Now if you really want to get into semantics compare: Personally my RAW interpretation would go with the elegant "attack roll" guideline. As a DM, I would probably allow that. I would however think it matches the *intent* of Reckless attack if my DM decided that I needed to declare before I use my bonus shield shove and would endeavour not to be a whiny **** about it. [/QUOTE]
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