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<blockquote data-quote="Sanglorian" data-source="post: 5798721" data-attributes="member: 83822"><p>I think limiting the paladin to Lawful Good is great. With a viable multiclass system, a cleric/fighter makes a great divine warrior - in most editions, a non-multiclassed cleric also makes a great divine warrior!</p><p></p><p>Having the cleric or cleric/fighter fill that role leaves the paladin to be focused on purity, conviction and righteousness. A paladin's fall from grace is all the more stirring if paladiins are the best of the best. When a paladin faces a difficult moral choice, the fact that he/she cannot compromise even in the slightest without losing his/her unique status makes that decision all the more compelling. The incorruptible paladin is special; he/she loses that specialness if there are paladins of all alignments with similar powers.</p><p></p><p>My preference for 5e would be paladins who are limited to Lawful Good, but who have the option to fall and become Blackguards, immediately gaining additional special abilities, or simply lapse and lose their paladin abilities. I think it was a mistake in 3e to put the blackguard in the DM's Guide, because that hid something that I think should always be weighing on a paladin - that it would be so easy to become that which they hate the most.</p><p></p><p>By the sound of it, there'll be plenty of classes in 5e. I don't see the harm in having one reserved for an archetype that shows up in Star Wars, Dragonlance, in medieval legend and three decades of D&D - the holy warrior from whom more is asked than is asked of anyone else.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sanglorian, post: 5798721, member: 83822"] I think limiting the paladin to Lawful Good is great. With a viable multiclass system, a cleric/fighter makes a great divine warrior - in most editions, a non-multiclassed cleric also makes a great divine warrior! Having the cleric or cleric/fighter fill that role leaves the paladin to be focused on purity, conviction and righteousness. A paladin's fall from grace is all the more stirring if paladiins are the best of the best. When a paladin faces a difficult moral choice, the fact that he/she cannot compromise even in the slightest without losing his/her unique status makes that decision all the more compelling. The incorruptible paladin is special; he/she loses that specialness if there are paladins of all alignments with similar powers. My preference for 5e would be paladins who are limited to Lawful Good, but who have the option to fall and become Blackguards, immediately gaining additional special abilities, or simply lapse and lose their paladin abilities. I think it was a mistake in 3e to put the blackguard in the DM's Guide, because that hid something that I think should always be weighing on a paladin - that it would be so easy to become that which they hate the most. By the sound of it, there'll be plenty of classes in 5e. I don't see the harm in having one reserved for an archetype that shows up in Star Wars, Dragonlance, in medieval legend and three decades of D&D - the holy warrior from whom more is asked than is asked of anyone else. [/QUOTE]
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