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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 7573775" data-attributes="member: 4348">You are right in that if you want a rules lite system currently, C&amp;C is probably the closest you can get to Pathfinder as a rather easy and quick system to understand.&nbsp; It has many similarities with Pathfinder, but because it is a lot liter and less complex there is also a lot less ability to modify characters as you want.I love Castles and Crusades.&nbsp; It was the last system that Gary Gygax was working through in order to publish his Castle Zagyg (otherwise known as a recreation/revamp of Castle Greyhawk).That would probably be my primary choice in the same situation as you are in.If you are looking for something that is still complex but slightly less complex than the main core rules of Pathfinder, Jacob Lewis's idea of the Beginner Box is also an excellent suggestion.&nbsp; You basically use the Beginner Box rules for various things, and if you still want to use the classes, skills, feats, and spells of Pathfinder you can but using the BB rules instead.A little further out and a middle ground between C&amp;C and the Beginner Box is Fantasy Age.&nbsp; It is a little less like Pathfinder than the other two listed above, but has ideas a little reminiscent of them.&nbsp; It's a tad more complex than C&amp;C, less so than the Beginner Box probably, but has a lot of functionality for those who want to be able to modify characters as they desire.&nbsp; I really enjoy Fantasy Age as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 7573775, member: 4348"] You are right in that if you want a rules lite system currently, C&C is probably the closest you can get to Pathfinder as a rather easy and quick system to understand. It has many similarities with Pathfinder, but because it is a lot liter and less complex there is also a lot less ability to modify characters as you want. I love Castles and Crusades. It was the last system that Gary Gygax was working through in order to publish his Castle Zagyg (otherwise known as a recreation/revamp of Castle Greyhawk). That would probably be my primary choice in the same situation as you are in. If you are looking for something that is still complex but slightly less complex than the main core rules of Pathfinder, Jacob Lewis's idea of the Beginner Box is also an excellent suggestion. You basically use the Beginner Box rules for various things, and if you still want to use the classes, skills, feats, and spells of Pathfinder you can but using the BB rules instead. A little further out and a middle ground between C&C and the Beginner Box is Fantasy Age. It is a little less like Pathfinder than the other two listed above, but has ideas a little reminiscent of them. It's a tad more complex than C&C, less so than the Beginner Box probably, but has a lot of functionality for those who want to be able to modify characters as they desire. I really enjoy Fantasy Age as well. [/QUOTE]

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