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<blockquote data-quote="udalrich" data-source="post: 5507154" data-attributes="member: 53796">One difference between 3.5 and PF druids is that the PF druid cannot be great at everything.&nbsp; Since Wild Shape gives bonuses to your existing stats rather than replacing them, you cannot put a 7 in strength and dex to get an 18 wisdom, and rely on wild shape to let you fight well in melee.I don't know of a variation with less spell casting.&nbsp; However, if you put your 3 best stats into physical stats, you will be effective in melee when wildshaped but your casting will not be impressive.&nbsp; You'll need magic items to access your higher level spell slots and your save DCs will not be impressive.&nbsp; (I'd expect to have mostly buffs, cures and utility spells prepared.)Other than the size based bonuses for becoming the smallest creature you can and the option of &quot;it's just a cat, we can ignore it&quot;, the standard druid does not get skill based bonuses.&nbsp; The Advanced Players Guide&nbsp; has a lot of <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid#TOC-Aquatic-Druid" target="_blank">variant options for druids</a>.&nbsp; I'm not familiar with them but one of them might be what you are looking for.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="udalrich, post: 5507154, member: 53796"] One difference between 3.5 and PF druids is that the PF druid cannot be great at everything. Since Wild Shape gives bonuses to your existing stats rather than replacing them, you cannot put a 7 in strength and dex to get an 18 wisdom, and rely on wild shape to let you fight well in melee. I don't know of a variation with less spell casting. However, if you put your 3 best stats into physical stats, you will be effective in melee when wildshaped but your casting will not be impressive. You'll need magic items to access your higher level spell slots and your save DCs will not be impressive. (I'd expect to have mostly buffs, cures and utility spells prepared.) Other than the size based bonuses for becoming the smallest creature you can and the option of "it's just a cat, we can ignore it", the standard druid does not get skill based bonuses. The Advanced Players Guide has a lot of [url="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid#TOC-Aquatic-Druid"]variant options for druids[/url]. I'm not familiar with them but one of them might be what you are looking for. [/QUOTE]

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