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<blockquote data-quote="Herremann the Wise" data-source="post: 5512172" data-attributes="member: 11300"><p>You do seem quite edgy and quite defensive about 3.x. For what it's worth, I run a 3.x Age of Worms campaign, a Pathfinder Kingmaker campaign, a 4e homebrew as well as play in a couple of others (3.x and 4e). I read on these boards people criticising elements of each of these - but at no time do I feel the need to crack out the defender shields (except just once actually when some poster decided to take aim at the integrity of the Paizo owners). Sometimes people get things wrong, sometimes people play differently to you and sometimes people have a really good point that makes you re-evaluate your own stance on an issue. I think edition warring happens when people feel that "their style of game play" and thus "they" are under attack, and thus feel the need to defend it. As well, when people attack something purely because it's different to what they do, they are lacking perhaps in perspective, angst happens and instant edition war. This shouldn't however prevent good hearty discussion.</p><p></p><p>My point is that if you like 3.x that's cool. Appreciate though that other people might not, and some are quite happy to point out the problems the system has given them in their games. It is all opinion, whether validly cast or not and should be taken as that. Personally, I agree with Gameprinter that a lot of 3.x splat stuff caused serious issues in my Age of Worms campaign and so freeing myself from it and going Pathfinder Core/Advanced Player's Guide only for the first time in my Kingmaker campaign (having previously just combined everything in) has been both a breath of fresh air as well as addresses some of the issues I had with 3.x. Just because I like 3.x does not mean I can't criticise it and likewise just because you like it, does not mean that others can't criticise it on a messageboard where talking about this sort of stuff is what it is all about.</p><p></p><p>I would be very interested to read your opinion on 3.x and Pathfinder because you seem to think that Pathfinder is not an improvement but a step backwards - something that the OP might find quite useful. The point is, it is quite obvious that you are not trying to offend and I'm sure people will take your words in the spirit that they are cast. Likewise I suppose, people should be entitled to that same respect, even if one presents a view quite forcefully rather than with the meekest squeak.</p><p></p><p>So yeah. I'd be quite interested in your opinion. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Best Regards</p><p>Herremann the Wise</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herremann the Wise, post: 5512172, member: 11300"] You do seem quite edgy and quite defensive about 3.x. For what it's worth, I run a 3.x Age of Worms campaign, a Pathfinder Kingmaker campaign, a 4e homebrew as well as play in a couple of others (3.x and 4e). I read on these boards people criticising elements of each of these - but at no time do I feel the need to crack out the defender shields (except just once actually when some poster decided to take aim at the integrity of the Paizo owners). Sometimes people get things wrong, sometimes people play differently to you and sometimes people have a really good point that makes you re-evaluate your own stance on an issue. I think edition warring happens when people feel that "their style of game play" and thus "they" are under attack, and thus feel the need to defend it. As well, when people attack something purely because it's different to what they do, they are lacking perhaps in perspective, angst happens and instant edition war. This shouldn't however prevent good hearty discussion. My point is that if you like 3.x that's cool. Appreciate though that other people might not, and some are quite happy to point out the problems the system has given them in their games. It is all opinion, whether validly cast or not and should be taken as that. Personally, I agree with Gameprinter that a lot of 3.x splat stuff caused serious issues in my Age of Worms campaign and so freeing myself from it and going Pathfinder Core/Advanced Player's Guide only for the first time in my Kingmaker campaign (having previously just combined everything in) has been both a breath of fresh air as well as addresses some of the issues I had with 3.x. Just because I like 3.x does not mean I can't criticise it and likewise just because you like it, does not mean that others can't criticise it on a messageboard where talking about this sort of stuff is what it is all about. I would be very interested to read your opinion on 3.x and Pathfinder because you seem to think that Pathfinder is not an improvement but a step backwards - something that the OP might find quite useful. The point is, it is quite obvious that you are not trying to offend and I'm sure people will take your words in the spirit that they are cast. Likewise I suppose, people should be entitled to that same respect, even if one presents a view quite forcefully rather than with the meekest squeak. So yeah. I'd be quite interested in your opinion. :) Best Regards Herremann the Wise [/QUOTE]
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