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<blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 5512422" data-attributes="member: 50895"><p>I think the heated word I used was 'garbage', which caused the misinterpretation of what I was trying to say.</p><p></p><p>Let's put it this way. I love sushi (not raw fish, but rolled seaweed with rice and spiced pickles). I also love Lasagna. But I would never mix the two in the same dish, that would create horror.</p><p></p><p>I still play 3x now and again, not as a DM, but as a player, it's still a very good game. But having experienced Pathfinder, I prefer it to 3x. If you want to play 3x do so and have fun doing it. If you want to play Pathfinder that's a good thing too.</p><p></p><p>Pathfinder was initially designed to be backwards compatible, but after eating that dish for a year, I've discovered that its Sushi-Lasagna and while still edible, its problematic. Pathfinder seems to taste better on its own.</p><p></p><p>The mix of the two tastes like garbage to me, on their own each have a distinct flavor.</p><p></p><p>Is that too much metaphor?</p><p></p><p>A big part of the problem for me regarding 3x, is that is you limited yourself to 4 splats and 3x core, it worked fairly well. But many of the splats didn't work well with each other - there were too many splats, and a balance of the total splats weren't balanced between each other, only between itself and the core.</p><p></p><p>Trying to do the same betweeen Pathfinder Core and the 3x splats - the problem didn't go away. Pathfinder works more consistently by itself, than trying to mix 3x splats with it.</p><p></p><p>In a similar fashion there are many 3pp content for PF, though I am sure many of those 3pp supplements are based on themselves alone and PF Core, they aren't necessarily tied to other PF 3pp material. I'm guessing that if you include the supplements from five different 3pp sources and the Core, you might run into similar problems, as Core and 3x splats.</p><p></p><p>Its the mixture of too many different rules with the Core system that becomes problematic, no matter which edition's material you are using. It takes a careful hand to choose the best material to work for your particular game.</p><p></p><p>Reading what I say as more than that, and you're inventing stuff. The above is exactly what I mean... YMMV.</p><p></p><p>GP</p><p></p><p>PS: Of course its opinion, everything is subjective - I cannot separate opinion from a request on what is the best way to go. I don't know the alternatives, only what I have done and of course its based on opinion - how can it be anything else?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gamerprinter, post: 5512422, member: 50895"] I think the heated word I used was 'garbage', which caused the misinterpretation of what I was trying to say. Let's put it this way. I love sushi (not raw fish, but rolled seaweed with rice and spiced pickles). I also love Lasagna. But I would never mix the two in the same dish, that would create horror. I still play 3x now and again, not as a DM, but as a player, it's still a very good game. But having experienced Pathfinder, I prefer it to 3x. If you want to play 3x do so and have fun doing it. If you want to play Pathfinder that's a good thing too. Pathfinder was initially designed to be backwards compatible, but after eating that dish for a year, I've discovered that its Sushi-Lasagna and while still edible, its problematic. Pathfinder seems to taste better on its own. The mix of the two tastes like garbage to me, on their own each have a distinct flavor. Is that too much metaphor? A big part of the problem for me regarding 3x, is that is you limited yourself to 4 splats and 3x core, it worked fairly well. But many of the splats didn't work well with each other - there were too many splats, and a balance of the total splats weren't balanced between each other, only between itself and the core. Trying to do the same betweeen Pathfinder Core and the 3x splats - the problem didn't go away. Pathfinder works more consistently by itself, than trying to mix 3x splats with it. In a similar fashion there are many 3pp content for PF, though I am sure many of those 3pp supplements are based on themselves alone and PF Core, they aren't necessarily tied to other PF 3pp material. I'm guessing that if you include the supplements from five different 3pp sources and the Core, you might run into similar problems, as Core and 3x splats. Its the mixture of too many different rules with the Core system that becomes problematic, no matter which edition's material you are using. It takes a careful hand to choose the best material to work for your particular game. Reading what I say as more than that, and you're inventing stuff. The above is exactly what I mean... YMMV. GP PS: Of course its opinion, everything is subjective - I cannot separate opinion from a request on what is the best way to go. I don't know the alternatives, only what I have done and of course its based on opinion - how can it be anything else? [/QUOTE]
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