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<blockquote data-quote="Icyshadowlord" data-source="post: 5512548" data-attributes="member: 6669617"><p>Okay, for the first. I already said why I was being edgy. It was because on another forum (composed primarily of 3.5 fans) we already had so many random troll attacks by PF and 4e fans that I felt like they were all out to just call 3.x games with random slews of profanity, and that mind-set happened to be stuck with me when I slid back here.</p><p></p><p>As for my actual opinions, I really do not intend to force them on others. The only thing I tried to feed people was the notion of taking a closer look on things before jumping in. Likewise, I do not think that PF is a step forward, but I don't think it's such a huge step backward either, if it can even be called a step backward.</p><p></p><p>By that I mean that PF isn't really better than 3.x, but it's not really that much worse either. They both have their goods and bads, but ultimately I still prefer 3.x because of the splatbooks and the HUGE amounts of fan-made material (especially the awesome Tome books, which seem to be known better in some other places. Not really sure about that) from which I can pick the parts I like the most.</p><p></p><p>As for 4e, it plays VERY differently from the other two, and due to that judging it will have to go in a different manner. For one, yes, it did use it's own way of balancing classes. And yes, some say it does not feel like D&D anymore. To me, it's just a new edition that works differently. I sort of like how combat plays in it, but I despised the sudden downplay of RPing aspects my group had (might have been DM incompetence, but I am not that harsh a judge).</p><p></p><p>The reason why I was so edgy was because one troll went at me when I was in a bad mood, saying "You played 4e wrong because you still like 3.x" and another went "You played PF wrong because you still like 3.x". Now, when I see those trolls, I either ignore them or do a reverse troll on them. But that's beside the point. I am simply saying that I have been wrongly provoked before, and that's why I reacted a bit badly earlier. And I already did apologize about that, so yeah.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Icyshadowlord, post: 5512548, member: 6669617"] Okay, for the first. I already said why I was being edgy. It was because on another forum (composed primarily of 3.5 fans) we already had so many random troll attacks by PF and 4e fans that I felt like they were all out to just call 3.x games with random slews of profanity, and that mind-set happened to be stuck with me when I slid back here. As for my actual opinions, I really do not intend to force them on others. The only thing I tried to feed people was the notion of taking a closer look on things before jumping in. Likewise, I do not think that PF is a step forward, but I don't think it's such a huge step backward either, if it can even be called a step backward. By that I mean that PF isn't really better than 3.x, but it's not really that much worse either. They both have their goods and bads, but ultimately I still prefer 3.x because of the splatbooks and the HUGE amounts of fan-made material (especially the awesome Tome books, which seem to be known better in some other places. Not really sure about that) from which I can pick the parts I like the most. As for 4e, it plays VERY differently from the other two, and due to that judging it will have to go in a different manner. For one, yes, it did use it's own way of balancing classes. And yes, some say it does not feel like D&D anymore. To me, it's just a new edition that works differently. I sort of like how combat plays in it, but I despised the sudden downplay of RPing aspects my group had (might have been DM incompetence, but I am not that harsh a judge). The reason why I was so edgy was because one troll went at me when I was in a bad mood, saying "You played 4e wrong because you still like 3.x" and another went "You played PF wrong because you still like 3.x". Now, when I see those trolls, I either ignore them or do a reverse troll on them. But that's beside the point. I am simply saying that I have been wrongly provoked before, and that's why I reacted a bit badly earlier. And I already did apologize about that, so yeah. [/QUOTE]
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