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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 1642433" data-attributes="member: 141">I recently threw an advanced wight at my 8th level party.&nbsp; At the climax of a series of encounters- not as a random encounter or anything. An extra 4 HD, and a magic breastplate, a high resistance to turning, and regeneration 10 that worked against anything but holy or chaotic damage.&nbsp; (I know that, strictly speaking, undead can't have regeneration, but that's what it worked out to.&nbsp; If dropped it was not destroyed, and it came back quickly.&nbsp; I guess that by the book it was a form of fast healing that didn't work against holy or chaotic damage, plus a reform ability if destroyed.)One searing light and a few good hits and the wight was down.&nbsp; And then the party recognized that the &quot;wooden sword&quot; lying on the floor behind the wight was a relic that functioned as a holy sword.&nbsp; The wight was in the doorway, but after he was dropped the paladin was able to retrieve the sword and finished off the wight quite handily.&nbsp; I should have doubled the wight's hit points so that tumbling, dimension dooring or luring off the wight would be needed to get to the sword.&nbsp; Or a really tough fight.&nbsp; Oh well; there's always next time- <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious&nbsp; &nbsp; :]" data-shortname=":]" /> But back on topic: I agree that some kind of fast healing or damage resistance (5/holy or 5/silver or even 5/-) and/or about 4 or 5 times the indicated hit points would be a good start towards making the &quot;lesser undead&quot; quite feared.&nbsp; Or at least very annoying and hard to kill.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 1642433, member: 141"] I recently threw an advanced wight at my 8th level party. At the climax of a series of encounters- not as a random encounter or anything. An extra 4 HD, and a magic breastplate, a high resistance to turning, and regeneration 10 that worked against anything but holy or chaotic damage. (I know that, strictly speaking, undead can't have regeneration, but that's what it worked out to. If dropped it was not destroyed, and it came back quickly. I guess that by the book it was a form of fast healing that didn't work against holy or chaotic damage, plus a reform ability if destroyed.) One searing light and a few good hits and the wight was down. And then the party recognized that the "wooden sword" lying on the floor behind the wight was a relic that functioned as a holy sword. The wight was in the doorway, but after he was dropped the paladin was able to retrieve the sword and finished off the wight quite handily. I should have doubled the wight's hit points so that tumbling, dimension dooring or luring off the wight would be needed to get to the sword. Or a really tough fight. Oh well; there's always next time- :] But back on topic: I agree that some kind of fast healing or damage resistance (5/holy or 5/silver or even 5/-) and/or about 4 or 5 times the indicated hit points would be a good start towards making the "lesser undead" quite feared. Or at least very annoying and hard to kill. [/QUOTE]

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