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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shayuri" data-source="post: 3859507" data-attributes="member: 4936">As someone who's played several dragons in several games, I have some RAW answers. Crazy is of course, welcome to HR. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />1) Weapons. Dragons cannot use manufactured weapons in their claws. They can use special weapons made to fit over the tips of their tails, or that augment their natural weapons...but those are considered to still be natural weapons for multiple attack purposes. A dragon in a humanoid shape could use weapons, and get iterative attacks, but dragons do not get any weapon proficiencies that I am aware of, so you'd need to blow a feat on it.- Ah ha! Metallic dragons that have Alternate Form DO get Simple weapon proficiency. Again, mostly useful for alternate form, since they can't manipulate weapons with their claws.2) Alternate Form. Assuming forms that cannot wear a particular item causes that item to meld with the form, and become inoperative. Specifically, bracers would work for dragons and humanoids, but not snakes or eagles. Similarly, some of your statboosters might not work while in some forms as well, depending on what they wind up being.3) ECL - A 16HD dragon is not ECL 16, nor balanced to be adventuring with ECL 16s. Even with Crazy's rather relaxed ECL rules, it seems kind of weird that several of us have 14 HD or less and are considered to be ECL 16, while the dragon, which has the best monster HD of all, has full HD. Admittedly, since we're all on the same side, it's not really any skin off my nose...but if you want to know why there's such a big jump in AC, HP, attack bonus and so on with the dragon as compared to the rest of us...that's why.</blockquote>

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